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Apr 3, 2014 4:15 AM
#21
Heredity said: Come back to me when you've finished at least 1000+ anime.geezdad said: s-sorry geezdad-kun.Heredity said: You have only completed 416 anime. I don't think you're qualified to make that statement.geezdad said: typically most anime are animated.TallonKarrde23 said: Typically most anime are made in Japan.Bombolz said: Typically most anime are Whatever follows those words is fucking wrong and based out of pure ignorance. Please stop doing this. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
Apr 3, 2014 4:16 AM
#22
geezdad said: it shall be my life goal. then we will truly know if there should be a change in today's anime.Heredity said: Come back to me when you've finished at least 1000+ anime.geezdad said: s-sorry geezdad-kun.Heredity said: You have only completed 416 anime. I don't think you're qualified to make that statement.geezdad said: typically most anime are animated.TallonKarrde23 said: Typically most anime are made in Japan.Bombolz said: Typically most anime are Whatever follows those words is fucking wrong and based out of pure ignorance. Please stop doing this. |
Apr 3, 2014 4:18 AM
#23
Heredity said: geezdad said: it shall be my life goal. then we will truly know if there should be a change in today's anime.Heredity said: Come back to me when you've finished at least 1000+ anime.geezdad said: s-sorry geezdad-kun.Heredity said: You have only completed 416 anime. I don't think you're qualified to make that statement.geezdad said: typically most anime are animated.TallonKarrde23 said: Typically most anime are made in Japan.Bombolz said: Typically most anime are Whatever follows those words is fucking wrong and based out of pure ignorance. Please stop doing this. It's the only way. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
Apr 3, 2014 4:19 AM
#24
Bombolz said: Typically most anime are comprised of cute characters in a slice of life or romance genre DarkwindJR said: Today's anime consists mostly of Loli stuff and also Imouto stuff which is kind of annoying since there are just too many. I could even say that 70-80% of the shows are of those stuff I mentioned. Also there are a lot of unique anime out there but they suck. Nope. DrGeroCreation said: We need more cyberpunk and steampunk anime They are extremely boring. I'm happy they are not popular in anime/manga. |
Apr 3, 2014 4:20 AM
#26
Apr 3, 2014 4:23 AM
#27
@tsudecimo No they are not. |
Apr 3, 2014 4:26 AM
#28
DrGeroCreation said: @tsudecimo No they are not. |
Apr 3, 2014 4:47 AM
#29
Apr 3, 2014 4:51 AM
#30
I wish they diminish the cliche and fillers of the shows. Add more psychological and seinen genre. |
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Apr 3, 2014 5:03 AM
#31
tsudecimo said: Nope. They are extremely boring. I'm happy they are not popular in anime/manga. And cliche shounen with bad writing and more plot holes than I can count are better? |
Apr 3, 2014 5:06 AM
#32
AqworldThunder said: tsudecimo said: Nope. They are extremely boring. I'm happy they are not popular in anime/manga. And cliche shounen with bad writing and more plot holes than I can count are better? What? This already have been said to death but Shounen is not a genre. Nor is battle anime that popular to begin with. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:19 AM
#33
Apr 3, 2014 5:24 AM
#35
With Spring having so many good shows to look forward too(Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka?, Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san, M3, Fairy Tail, Akuma no Riddle etc..). I don't really think so. tsudecimo said: AqworldThunder said: tsudecimo said: Nope. They are extremely boring. I'm happy they are not popular in anime/manga. And cliche shounen with bad writing and more plot holes than I can count are better? What? This already have been said to death but Shounen is not a genre. Nor is battle animethat popular to begin with. More popular than most other genre's. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:32 AM
#36
rederoin said: tsudecimo said: AqworldThunder said: tsudecimo said: Nope. They are extremely boring. I'm happy they are not popular in anime/manga. And cliche shounen with bad writing and more plot holes than I can count are better? What? This already have been said to death but Shounen is not a genre. Nor is battle animethat popular to begin with. More popular than most other genre's. With popular here I meant, the amount of battle anime. There are more romance/Mecha/SoL anime than battle anime for example. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:34 AM
#37
rederoin said: With Spring having so many good shows to look forward too(Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka?, Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san, M3, Fairy Tail, Akuma no Riddle etc..). I don't really think so. tsudecimo said: AqworldThunder said: tsudecimo said: Nope. They are extremely boring. I'm happy they are not popular in anime/manga. And cliche shounen with bad writing and more plot holes than I can count are better? What? This already have been said to death but Shounen is not a genre. Nor is battle animethat popular to begin with. More popular than most other genre's. Even if those anime are good, it doesn't mean that I am wrong in saying that more than other genres, there are typically SoL, Romance etc... which you also seem to mention. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:38 AM
#38
rederoin said: With Spring having so many good shows to look forward too(Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka?, Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san, M3, Fairy Tail, Akuma no Riddle etc..). I don't really think so. yeaah spring has so many "Game" anime it will be really fun season |
Apr 3, 2014 5:42 AM
#39
rederoin said: With Spring having so many good shows to look forward too(Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka?, Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san, M3, Fairy Tail, Akuma no Riddle etc..). I don't really think so. tsudecimo said: AqworldThunder said: tsudecimo said: Nope. They are extremely boring. I'm happy they are not popular in anime/manga. And cliche shounen with bad writing and more plot holes than I can count are better? What? This already have been said to death but Shounen is not a genre. Nor is battle animethat popular to begin with. More popular than most other genre's. I laughed when you put good and this http://myanimelist.net/anime/21273/Gochuumon_wa_Usagi_Desu_ka into one sentence :D if that's not the exact type of garbage show that the OP was complaining about then I don't know xD What's the appeal of this? do you hate stories where there's actually a plot and not just little girls pandering to the otaku fanbase? |
Apr 3, 2014 5:44 AM
#40
I want more long running shounen anime :9 |
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Apr 3, 2014 5:45 AM
#41
Bombolz said: [ Even if those anime are good, it doesn't mean that I am wrong in saying that more than other genres, there are typically SoL, Romance etc... which you also seem to mention. If you think we got a lot of SoL anime, then you really gotta watch more anime. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:46 AM
#42
rederoin said: If you think we got a lot of SoL anime, then you really gotta watch more anime. true spotted |
Apr 3, 2014 5:47 AM
#43
TheNaturalPerm said: why do people say things like this?I laughed when you put good and this http://myanimelist.net/anime/21273/Gochuumon_wa_Usagi_Desu_ka into one sentence :D if that's not the exact type of garbage show that the OP was complaining about then I don't know xD What's the appeal of this? do you hate stories where there's actually a plot and not just little girls pandering to the otaku fanbase? |
Apr 3, 2014 5:51 AM
#44
rederoin said: Bombolz said: [ Even if those anime are good, it doesn't mean that I am wrong in saying that more than other genres, there are typically SoL, Romance etc... which you also seem to mention. If you think we got a lot of SoL anime, then you really gotta watch more anime. I was just talking about recent anime being more likely SoL or romance - that type of stuff, not all anime. - Just recent ones. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:51 AM
#45
Heredity said: TheNaturalPerm said: why do people say things like this?I laughed when you put good and this http://myanimelist.net/anime/21273/Gochuumon_wa_Usagi_Desu_ka into one sentence :D if that's not the exact type of garbage show that the OP was complaining about then I don't know xD What's the appeal of this? do you hate stories where there's actually a plot and not just little girls pandering to the otaku fanbase? It's like Symbv said. Some people in the western fanbase are too obsessed with 'plot', while the Japanese fans can appreciate other stuff, and are not too fixated on one thing. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:51 AM
#46
Bombolz said: rederoin said: Bombolz said: [ Even if those anime are good, it doesn't mean that I am wrong in saying that more than other genres, there are typically SoL, Romance etc... which you also seem to mention. If you think we got a lot of SoL anime, then you really gotta watch more anime. I was just talking about recent anime being more likely SoL or romance - that type of stuff, not all anime. - Just recent ones. I'm talking about recent anime, genius. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:53 AM
#47
Apr 3, 2014 5:54 AM
#48
rederoin said: Bombolz said: rederoin said: Bombolz said: [ Even if those anime are good, it doesn't mean that I am wrong in saying that more than other genres, there are typically SoL, Romance etc... which you also seem to mention. If you think we got a lot of SoL anime, then you really gotta watch more anime. I was just talking about recent anime being more likely SoL or romance - that type of stuff, not all anime. - Just recent ones. I'm talking about recent anime, genius. Well, from the looks of it, - end of 2013, there seems to be a lot of Sol/Romance/Drama/Fanservice/School/ cute characters. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:55 AM
#49
Bombolz said: rederoin said: Bombolz said: rederoin said: Bombolz said: [ Even if those anime are good, it doesn't mean that I am wrong in saying that more than other genres, there are typically SoL, Romance etc... which you also seem to mention. If you think we got a lot of SoL anime, then you really gotta watch more anime. I was just talking about recent anime being more likely SoL or romance - that type of stuff, not all anime. - Just recent ones. I'm talking about recent anime, genius. Well, from the looks of it, - end of 2013, there seems to be a lot of Sol/Romance/Drama/Fanservice/School/ cute characters. Do I really need to keep repeating myself? |
Apr 3, 2014 5:55 AM
#50
Nikoreo said: Bombolz said: rederoin said: Bombolz said: [ Even if those anime are good, it doesn't mean that I am wrong in saying that more than other genres, there are typically SoL, Romance etc... which you also seem to mention. If you think we got a lot of SoL anime, then you really gotta watch more anime. I was just talking about recent anime being more likely SoL or romance - that type of stuff, not all anime. - Just recent ones. Yeah I think you need to look harder. I'm trying, but psychological/military are very hard to find these days. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:55 AM
#51
tsudecimo said: Heredity said: TheNaturalPerm said: why do people say things like this?I laughed when you put good and this http://myanimelist.net/anime/21273/Gochuumon_wa_Usagi_Desu_ka into one sentence :D if that's not the exact type of garbage show that the OP was complaining about then I don't know xD What's the appeal of this? do you hate stories where there's actually a plot and not just little girls pandering to the otaku fanbase? It's like Symbv said. Some people in the western fanbase are too obsessed with 'plot', while the Japanese fans can appreciate other stuff, and are not too fixated on one thing. not even the characters in those tpye of shows are good. once again. it's just pandering to the otaku fanbase and anybody could write these kind of stories... |
Apr 3, 2014 5:56 AM
#52
rederoin said: Bombolz said: rederoin said: Bombolz said: rederoin said: Bombolz said: [ Even if those anime are good, it doesn't mean that I am wrong in saying that more than other genres, there are typically SoL, Romance etc... which you also seem to mention. If you think we got a lot of SoL anime, then you really gotta watch more anime. I was just talking about recent anime being more likely SoL or romance - that type of stuff, not all anime. - Just recent ones. I'm talking about recent anime, genius. Well, from the looks of it, - end of 2013, there seems to be a lot of Sol/Romance/Drama/Fanservice/School/ cute characters. Do I really need to keep repeating myself? No, I was just saying, that my point was that there are more of these genres, not that EVERYTHING was in that category. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:57 AM
#53
tsudecimo said: but shows like gochuumon do have a plot - it's just not about the world or a city on the verge of destruction thanks to some evil entity. as such, asking if people 'hate stories where there's actually a plot' makes no sense. it implies plots can only be the most basic form of conflict resolution.Heredity said: TheNaturalPerm said: why do people say things like this?I laughed when you put good and this http://myanimelist.net/anime/21273/Gochuumon_wa_Usagi_Desu_ka into one sentence :D if that's not the exact type of garbage show that the OP was complaining about then I don't know xD What's the appeal of this? do you hate stories where there's actually a plot and not just little girls pandering to the otaku fanbase? It's like Symbv said. Some people in the western fanbase are too obsessed with 'plot', while the Japanese fans can appreciate other stuff, and are not too fixated on one thing. like, i don't know about you guys but seeing two girls figure out how to open a jar with a stuck lid for 15 minutes is just the cutest thing. |
Apr 3, 2014 5:58 AM
#54
Nikoreo said: TheNaturalPerm said: tsudecimo said: Heredity said: TheNaturalPerm said: why do people say things like this?I laughed when you put good and this http://myanimelist.net/anime/21273/Gochuumon_wa_Usagi_Desu_ka into one sentence :D if that's not the exact type of garbage show that the OP was complaining about then I don't know xD What's the appeal of this? do you hate stories where there's actually a plot and not just little girls pandering to the otaku fanbase? It's like Symbv said. Some people in the western fanbase are too obsessed with 'plot', while the Japanese fans can appreciate other stuff, and are not too fixated on one thing. not even the characters in those tpye of shows are good. once again. it's just pandering to the otaku fanbase You completely misread what he had to say as if only your opinion matters. There's a flaw in some watchers in which they only focus too much on plot, not necessarily hate it, but can at least appreciate anime without a "good plot." I can appreciate a k-on once in a while. but for it to be 30% of new anime to come out? that's just too much |
Apr 3, 2014 6:02 AM
#55
TheNaturalPerm said: aren't the other '70%' anime about saving the world in some way?I can appreciate a k-on once in a while. but for it to be 30% of new anime to come out? that's just too much let me have my mellow storylines. i like anime too. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:04 AM
#56
Heredity said: This world ain't big enough for the lot of us. Someone must pay, and it won't be the plotless loli shows.TheNaturalPerm said: aren't the other '70%' anime about saving the world in some way?I can appreciate a k-on once in a while. but for it to be 30% of new anime to come out? that's just too much let me have my mellow storylines. i like anime too. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:05 AM
#57
TheNaturalPerm said: not even the characters in those tpye of shows are good. once again. it's just pandering to the otaku fanbase and anybody could write these kind of stories... No, you can't write better. They are interesting, funny, quirky, likable, etc. That makes them ''good'' in the eyes of those who like these types of anime. Some people are not interested in a plot driven story, or a heavy drama and action. They just want a relaxing, care free SoL series with characters they like. There is nothing bad or wrong about that. Every type of anime has it merits that depend on the viewer and their perspective. You don't get to decide what people should perceive as good or crap. Heredity said: but shows like gochuumon do have a plot - it's just not about the world or a city on the verge of destruction thanks to some evil entity. as such, asking if people 'hate stories where there's actually a plot' makes no sense. it implies plots can only be the most basic form of conflict resolution. like, i don't know about you guys but seeing two girls figure out how to open a jar with a stuck lid for 15 minutes is just the cutest thing. They mean plot driven stories. Shows like NNB or K-On do have a plot in the general sense, but it's not plot/story driven. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:07 AM
#58
Heredity said: TheNaturalPerm said: aren't the other '70%' anime about saving the world in some way?I can appreciate a k-on once in a while. but for it to be 30% of new anime to come out? that's just too much let me have my mellow storylines. i like anime too. unfortunately the other 65% are ecchi harems or some shonen saving the world. :D don't get me wrong. It's perfectly fine with me to have 2-3 moe shows a season. but not...15. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:08 AM
#59
tsudecimo said: right, it's character driven - more attention is given to characters than setting. and, well, i like that. characters draw me to an anime more than the initial plot set to be resolved.They mean plot driven stories. Shows like NNB or K-On do have a plot in the general sense, but it's not plot/story driven. of course though, one could argue that the plot of a show like k-on is actually driven by the natural process of attending high school. TheNaturalPerm said: there are 51 new anime starting this coming season, and you think 2-3 moe shows within that is all there should be of that type. my oh me oh my.unfortunately the other 65% are ecchi harems or some shonen saving the world. :D don't get me wrong. It's perfectly fine with me to have 2-3 moe shows a season. but not...15. |
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Apr 3, 2014 6:14 AM
#60
Nikoreo said: TheNaturalPerm said: Heredity said: TheNaturalPerm said: aren't the other '70%' anime about saving the world in some way?I can appreciate a k-on once in a while. but for it to be 30% of new anime to come out? that's just too much let me have my mellow storylines. i like anime too. unfortunately the other 65% are ecchi harems or some shonen saving the world. :D don't get me wrong. It's perfectly fine with me to have 2-3 moe shows a season. but not...15. Yeah, I'm just not going to bother dealing with your deluded statements anymore. I think the general anime fanbase got worse, not the anime itself. you are free to do so xD I think you are actually the butthurt one though lol. and you are right about the fanbase gettin worse. they tend to be happy with less and less actual content in a show haha. just get some lil girls in there and your show will do just fine. they'll love it to death ^^ |
Apr 3, 2014 6:17 AM
#61
Heredity said: tsudecimo said: right, it's character driven - more attention is given to characters than setting. and, well, i like that. characters draw me to an anime more than the initial plot set to be resolved.They mean plot driven stories. Shows like NNB or K-On do have a plot in the general sense, but it's not plot/story driven. of course though, one could argue that the plot of a show like k-on is actually driven by the natural process of attending high school. I don't really think you can call them character driven. They just have focus on their everyday life, their actions doesn't affect any sort of plot forward. There is no clear progression or plot development or character development for the most part. They are non-serious and mostly comedic. No, I don't think you can argue that, it's just a plot point. A character driven series typically would be a romance/drama, since the plot revolves around the characters, their developments, their relationships and their decisions and actions that moves the plot forward and create plot progression, something like Toradora for example. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:17 AM
#62
I'd rather the shitty writers stick to what they're doing. I find terrible SOL to be a lot more bearable than terrible action. Especially if you're gonna use death as a major theme. Cause then you get shit like Pupa, or Mahou Shoujo of the End, and your story turns into nothing but cheap gore fanservice. So let the shit writers make money pandering to the audiences that give them money. Don't encourage them to step out of their bounds and start ruining other genres. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:19 AM
#63
Red_Keys said: I'd rather the shitty writers stick to what they're doing. I find terrible SOL to be a lot more bearable than terrible action. Especially if you're gonna use death as a major theme. Cause then you get shit like Pupa, or Mahou Shoujo of the End, and your story turns into nothing but cheap gore fanservice. So let the shit writers make money pandering to the audiences that give them money. Don't encourage them to step out of their bounds and start ruining other genres. You watched so little, yet... |
Apr 3, 2014 6:25 AM
#64
Apr 3, 2014 6:26 AM
#65
It's really annoying when the writers/producers/professional thinkers are too afraid to write in "broken hearts" when there are more than one interest in many romances. Of course, there are some, but most seem to just leave the last episode as something along the lines of one interest saying to another "I won't lose!" And then....fin |
Apr 3, 2014 6:26 AM
#66
tsudecimo said: um, and that's exactly what happens in your typical slice of life series is it not?A character driven series typically would be a romance/drama, since the plot revolves around the characters, their developments, their relationships and their decisions and actions that moves the plot forward and create plot progression, something like Toradora for example. They just have focus on their everyday life, their actions doesn't affect any sort of plot forward. well, yes their actions do move the easygoing plot along. it's like you're implying characters sit in one spot and never do anything, never converse, never develop, never anything. character actions and decisions can change the dynamic of the group.i'd imagine you'd need to to be pretty blind to the character develop and social dynamic of a slice of life series to not even recognise something like one character slowly progressing from hanging out and being friends with character a to character b over the source of 12-13 episodes. yuru-yuri is a great example of a character driven story. to imply nothing changed or developed over the course of two seasons would be silly. the main character akari's development, subtlety forming a strong relationship with china was excellent. You watched so little, yet... hey man, don't pull that card. don't pull it on him and i won't pull it on you. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:32 AM
#68
We need to go back to 4:3. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:34 AM
#69
People like to get butthurt or automatically derail threads like these but the fact of the matter is that there is a lack of certain anime and an abundance of other types of anime. It is a lot easier to find sol or romcom anime than crime drama anime or steampunk anime or historical anime not set in Japan or China etc. Anime fans should stop trying to hide or deny that fact. |
Apr 3, 2014 6:36 AM
#70
I want a market where Samurai Flamenco can at least break even. And some shit like Infinite Stratos seels a shit ton. Anime is fucked, I say. |
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