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Apr 6, 2014 3:20 AM

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Ikalgo playing the badass was ridiculous. He couldn't pull the trigger last time but now he is shooting the gun like it's legal. Boring episode. Looking forward to seeing Killua in action :)
Apr 6, 2014 3:36 AM
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TimeTraveler- said:
Ikalgo playing the badass was ridiculous. He couldn't pull the trigger last time but now he is shooting the gun like it's legal. Boring episode. Looking forward to seeing Killua in action :)


He didn't try to kill Welfin.
Apr 6, 2014 12:54 PM
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TimeTraveler- said:
Ikalgo playing the badass was ridiculous. He couldn't pull the trigger last time but now he is shooting the gun like it's legal. Boring episode. Looking forward to seeing Killua in action :)
And more importantly Welfin was armed and conscious.
Apr 6, 2014 1:04 PM

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Been waiting for episode 124 for quite some time... weird it took so long. Just realized it's Sunday.


Shit.
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Apr 7, 2014 9:20 AM

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insan3Spectre said:
Yeah, I highly doubt that the King would allow them to help myself. My point is simply that he stopped a potential threat, that's all I'm saying. You need to understand, man. You know how everything ends, so you see it as these things leading to one very specific conclusion. I don't know how it will end, all I can do is use the information I have up until now. What I feel now is that Ikalgo is important, maybe I'll look back on a re-watch and not see it that way after I get the big picture, I don't know.

That's not a good enough reason. If they are not dangerous enough to damage the mission of the hunters, for reasons I already stated. No actually, I'm basing most of this on information that were already shown in the anime. After I finished the arc in the manga, is where I was certain that Ikaglo is useless for the most part. It's simple, really. Ikaglo has a subplot that doesn't affect the main plot, I don't know why I need to keep repeating it, when it's that simple.

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Like I said before, I view those characters as MC's of the arc whereas Gon and Killua are the MC's of the series as a whole. In fact, until you brought it up, I had always viewed them as such. I like this viewpoint because pretty much every character feels important to me when they are on screen. I would even argue Ikalgo's role is trivial simply because you choose to see it that way, I don't go "Oh, I wish the King was on screen" because I see every character involved in the mission as important.

This is why it's a disagreement on fundamentals. Your definition of a main character is way too broad. To you every character that gets a good amount of screen time is automatically a main character.

The main characters of this arc are Gon, Killua, The King, Komugi, The Royal Guards and Netero, maybe even Kite. The others are just supporting characters with varying degrees of importance and relevance, Ikaglo being the least important after Welfin. That's just lame, I view Ikaglo as trivial because of the level of impact he had on the main plot and his relevance to the major events. My only guess, is that because Ikaglo got screen time and ''depth'' you ''feel'' like he is important. There are levels of importance, not every character is the same.

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Ikalgo saved killua life. I guess we have a different definition of important indeed :)

I was mostly talking about the invasion. How did you manage to miss that?

I'm calling him irrelevant and trivial because of his role in the invasion, not the entire arc.


Don't agree. Imo he is cheetu level. So not any hunter would take him out easily. Cheetu had to face zoldycks to be taken out. Against morel and his student, he got out fine. Sure, if the hunters face him prepared, fine. But they are busy with all other Royal guards. Having any other ant, however weak they are, surprise the hunter when they are fighting the RG, it could be very dangerous indeed.

Cheetu didn't face off, with the Zoldycks, he literally got squashed like a bug. The other hunters held their own against the Royal Guards, it goes without saying that ants on the level of Berph is not a problem, especially when those ants have no intention of getting near them, they had their own worries and plot to do IIRC.

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Ikaglo role in the main plot was so minimal, that I decided to say it was literally nothing. I mean Welfin's role in itself is small, so that makes Ikaglo roles's even smaller.

It could have been simply written as Weflin meeting you know who, and spelling the beans. The fact, that the scene could have been easily written without his existence, is all the more proof of the level of his importance.

I think the irony here is that little subplot will never happen, because of the all might hiatus. And if Togashi returns, I hope to God his doesn't bother with it, and just forget those horrible characters. But the Gyro thing is interesting though.
Apr 8, 2014 12:35 PM
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Both this and 122 were fantastically done episodes. Albeit for different reasons respectively.
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Apr 8, 2014 10:20 PM
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tsudecimo said:



Ikaglo role in the main plot was so minimal, that I decided to say it was literally nothing. I mean Welfin's role in itself is small, so that makes Ikaglo roles's even smaller.

It could have been simply written as Weflin meeting you know who, and spelling the beans. The fact, that the scene could have been easily written without his existence, is all the more proof of the level of his importance.

I think the irony here is that little subplot will never happen, because of the all might hiatus. And if Togashi returns, I hope to God his doesn't bother with it, and just forget those horrible characters. But the Gyro thing is interesting though.


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Apr 14, 2014 4:18 PM

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Felt a little dragged out and what an inconvenient time for this confrontation to take place but since this was the most interesting thing Ikalgo has done since the invasion begun, my complaints are minimal. However, even after hearing his backstory I still can't bring myself to care about Welfin.
May 13, 2014 9:42 PM

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Ikalgo is so cool. Welfin too. They are what side-characters aspire to be; characters with depth, struggle, and growth.
Jun 8, 2014 7:08 AM

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I thought for sure Palm was disguised as the little mute ant servant.
Jun 23, 2014 12:58 PM

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The focus on Ikalbro made for a surprisingly great episode : Welfin definitely redeemed himself a bit and his encounter with Gyro really got me curious. Of course Ikalbro himself was awesome.

So, Palm turned into an Ant or what?
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Jul 2, 2014 8:24 AM

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Now that that conflict is finally over, onto the good stuff.
Transformed Palm is going to cause more trouble.
Jul 3, 2014 5:58 PM

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I ended up enjoying this episode more than I expected to. Seeing Ikalgo's character development is fun.

Looks like they were too late to get to Palm.
Jul 10, 2014 1:04 PM

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i was expecting weird girl to turn into an enemy but dont like it, i was hoping that after wolf guy got defeated all the fighting against unimportant ants d be over an we could focus on the royal guard an the king... but here comes the new villain at the last minute
Aug 17, 2014 4:34 PM
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Not quite what I expected but great episode. Ikalgo is a good character so I was happy that he was able to realize that his strength and commitment isn't in taking lives but instead having determination to risk his own life to save his friends. The confession of wolf guy was also noteworthy. I really disliked him, but he did a 180. I thought he changed a bit too fast, don't really know where the first seeds of this change was planted, but that may be more of my fault. In life, there is no true villain. Everyone tries to do what they see best. Usually the people that act in evil ways with no reason are mentally unstable. So I am content with this episode, and excited about the future fight between King and Netero.
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Aug 19, 2014 2:53 PM

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Nerf Broctopus plz
Sep 13, 2014 12:00 PM

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Shit! Palm is a mutant xD
Dec 15, 2014 6:19 PM

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Noooo what did they do to palm!? ;_;
Feb 3, 2015 5:51 PM

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Omg when I saw this cocoon the first I had a feeling but man that it was Palm. Killua vs. Palm next episode.... :O

Mar 24, 2015 3:46 AM
Mar 24, 2015 4:40 AM

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I miss this show T__________T hxh withdrawls
Mar 24, 2015 4:42 AM

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May 3, 2015 2:59 PM

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Eww ... centipedes in your head.

That's a new look for Palm-chan.

May 19, 2015 1:12 PM

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So welfin turned out to be coward.

I still dont understand how octodude had no problems with shooting a kid until he bled to death but couldnt finish off an enemy blue lobster
Aug 5, 2015 1:10 AM

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Wow, all i could think about was how similar ikalgo was to kaneki from tokyo ghoul's situation, with centipedes being placed inside his head too. and then i remember the author of tokyo ghoul looked up to (and worked under?) togashi... hmmm
Aug 28, 2015 12:47 AM

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I wondered when that Gyro story would finally be relevant.

I wish Welfin luck. I hope he makes it out of this.
Oct 3, 2015 3:11 AM

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Oh so Meruem was born from Gyro meatball?
Maybe that explains why they are born with an evil aura? Due to the anger and disappointment they have held during their life?
Jan 19, 2016 12:39 PM

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Damn i didn't thought ikalgo to easily defeat welfin.
Mar 19, 2016 9:46 PM

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The fact that there are people defending this episode shows how far fanboyism can get.
May 5, 2016 5:04 PM

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Big turn-off just as Netero vs Meruem began..... Still a fair episode. 3/5
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May 12, 2016 4:40 PM

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I find it strange that Ikalgo gets so much screen time though I do like Welfin so I didn't mind this episode.
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Sep 25, 2016 6:30 PM

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What's with this show and disgusting bugs under people's skin, so gross!
Oct 23, 2016 12:00 AM

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So Madhouse trolled this episode as an AF joke.

Hirin. :)

Ikalgo avoiding being clutch.

Welfin is a bitch. lol

Damn. Crazy that you were killing Ants as a human then hours to days later you're one of them. I'd be pissed off.

Holy crap. Palm was in the cocoon. She was already batshit crazy before as a human. Lawd help us all.
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Oct 24, 2016 6:14 AM

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Welfin, dam he's a pretty cool fellow. I have a feeling he will meet Gyro again and hope he does. Hope Palm is okay but the ED tells a different story. Ikalgo is truly a badass. đź‘Ť
Jun 11, 2017 3:14 AM

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I wonder who's side Palm-chan is now...
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Jun 28, 2017 1:55 PM
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Makes me wonder whether the manga became so bad as well or whether it's because the anime ran out of money. This arc should have been over so many episodes ago and so far, still almost nothing happened at all (two people out of fight, king lured away).
Aug 11, 2017 9:52 PM
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Amazing-tabular! I love how there's a natural callback to 20 episodes ago. I felt some nostalgia tbh. Also wolf showing his soft side and being nice and honest really melted my heart

Nov 10, 2017 7:15 AM

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Never expected Welfin to be a friend of Gyro lol
Dec 9, 2017 10:59 AM

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Welfin was aight. I still don't really care for him doe :3 his centipedes were nasty; prolly worse than Ikalgo's bullet ticks D: poor Ikalgo ><

They need to stop transitioning Palm between beautiful and ugly LOLOL. Pick one xD can't wait to see her new transformation. I hope she'll still remember her allies D: if they call her #1..... I have a bad feeling the new batches of humans or whatever is being reborn will most likely not remember details from their past D': that would be shitty......
Dec 29, 2017 1:03 PM

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Ikalgo just turned gangsta up in this bish. I love him haha!
I love how he went from a cry baby to Scarface in a matter of seconds.
Pow pow motherfu.....!!!

I was really hoping for that Netero vs Meruem battle though ;/

5/5

Jan 25, 2018 8:45 PM

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Ikalgo literally became a savage badass the moment he's willing to risk his life to protect his allies! Felt pretty sorry for Welfin... His life as a human and as a chimera is nothing but despair. At least he got Gyro as a human friend and maybe Ikalga as a chimera friend...

Did Palm just become a chimera at the end there???
Aug 21, 2018 11:55 AM

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not much fighting this episode.. but damn palm really changed
Jan 3, 2019 3:17 PM

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This sure was a breather episode to be honest, quite liked that small character development even though they're pretty much just stretching this arc more and more.


Still quite interesting, but damn that ending, RIP Palm! Either way let's see what the next episode has to offer.
Sep 18, 2019 7:14 AM

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No animation studio should ever be allowed to make such a bad episode after such a good 122nd episode
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Oct 31, 2019 1:35 AM

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Ikalgo bravely stood his ground against Welfin even when the black centipedes kept growing in his head, crawling disgustingly all over his skull. I got second-hand pain that almost made me tear up from watching that... It's a good thing that their talk made Welfin remember his humanity and help Ikalgo find Palm. It made me curious about what life our favorite octopus had led before becoming what he is now, that's for sure.

Palm was the captured human and she's turned into a mermaid-like Chimera Ant, oh no...








Nov 11, 2019 4:23 PM

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Welfin did a full 180 with me. Seeing the ants recall their human memories really hits me in a strange spot. Ikalgo is such a good guy. RIP Palm (?) I guess
Dec 27, 2019 10:52 PM
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What have they done to Palm? Is she a Chimera Ant now? I hope it's something curable.
Ikalgo keeps climbing my favorite characters list, and fast. I love the dude.
Jun 20, 2020 11:36 PM

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Ikalgo mvp, I hope he repeats this move with Palm ><
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Jul 31, 2020 9:11 AM

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This episode gave me very strong Tokyo Ghoul flashbacks with the centipedes
Aug 16, 2020 6:22 AM

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though i expected that they continue the netero and mureum battle they surprised me with full ikarglo episode, i thought it would be boring but it was actually more fun than i knew, the episode ended before i realized it.

damm ikarklgo one of the best characters here, this episode really proves it.

and the story wolfin told actually made things more connected, i really wonder if mureum is the gyro ant.

i hope though palm now changed she still be our old palm.
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