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Apr 1, 2014 10:31 AM
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TheNaturalPerm said:
tsudecimo said:
Good sales for witch craft, I expected worse. I hope Koimonogatari will break 40k in it's first volume.

TheNaturalPerm said:
why would you buy infinite stratos? to fap? is it that? do them puberty humans fap to that? probably right? y u no buy anime with actual story?? so much bs on this list. them otaku basement nerds taste is way too powerful.

Lol, this is one of the lousiest attempts to insult a group of people, I have ever witnessed. And some parts of it are wrong. They don't live in basements, silly hater-kun.


They don't? do they have a big apartement complex?

Isn't that kind of heartwarming though? A tight-knit community of IS lovers living together, eating together, fapping together.
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Apr 1, 2014 10:32 AM

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Kuroko no Basket seems to be holding up pretty well, hopefully they won't make us wait long for a third season. Same for High School DxD.
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Apr 1, 2014 10:33 AM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:

Anyway that really is interesting if Hozuki is predicted to be the seasons top seller like I keep hearing. It would same to indict that WIT is making quite a name for itself as a new alternative to the same old names and ideas as it doesn't seem like the kind of thing otaku would be even the slightest bit interested in.


Hoozuki has a huge female fanbase, particularly a yaoi fanbase. Even before the anime came out, it was extremely popular with females as far as a manga goes at least.


I knew that had to be it. Man there really are just an extremely limited number of ways in which a show can sell nowadays. No wonder 2ch and stalker predictions are usually so accurate. Next season looks like it'll be pretty obvious which shows will sell the best too and it'll probably yet again be an Aniplex show cause Mahouka and Mekaku City Actors are already so popular. I actually am kind of interested in the former since it looks like it could be good old fashioned guilty pleasure fun ala the Index franchise, while the latter just kind of looks like the most omnipandering try hard edgy thing I've seen since the last hyped up Aniplex show (so not that long ago actually) and also seems to tap literally every cult support group from moe otaku to fujoshi, to the indie crowd, to niconico fans, to LN fans and beyond. It's also probably pre-destined for record sales and popularity which as a result will lead to a further extension of this Shaft style mega-popularity era I just so can't wait for anime to just be over with already cause it's kind of making anime shitty as smaller studios try to copy the formula. It's as played out to me as the Kyoani cute girls doing cute things slice of life formula.

If there's anything to look forward to it's that somehow in an era as creatively dominated by one particular gimmicky visual style or at the very least one producer with the biggest marketing machine ever assembled in the history of the medium that an old school genre like mecha is somehow managing to make a comeback as are some of the older classic franchises which are getting remakes or sequels. I mean if you look at the way sales charts continue to read this just doesn't seem like the time for that sort of thing, but I guess it's now or never really. It seems like a big gamble on the part of a lot of creators, but hey at least it gives that faint hope that I'll be having some watchable shows that are at least somewhat in line with my tastes for at least the next couple of years cause what's consistently popular in Japan sure as hell isn't ever close.
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I'm not interested in either Mekaku City Actors or Mahouka, they are far too overhyped and my turnover rate for really overhyped anime like those is close to 98%.


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*3. *9,742 *9,742 IS: Infinite Stratos 2 Vol.5
*4. *8,937 *8,937 Kuroko no Basket 2nd Season Vol.3

IS selling more bluray copies than Kuroko, Japan please...
Apr 1, 2014 11:29 AM

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twedayy said:
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*3. *9,742 *9,742 IS: Infinite Stratos 2 Vol.5
*4. *8,937 *8,937 Kuroko no Basket 2nd Season Vol.3

IS selling more bluray copies than Kuroko, Japan please...

You forgot how DVD heavy KnB is.

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noragami is doing alright hopefully will get a second season.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:


I knew that had to be it. Man there really are just an extremely limited number of ways in which a show can sell nowadays.


I'm afraid so. Unless it appeal to a mainstream audience, which anime almost never does, a show you has to either be popular with otaku or fujoshi. At least, I think so. Which is why mainstream stuff which is rarely made into an anime(like shoujo manga for instance) is now made into live actions(which I loathe sigh...poor me lol) because they don't sell discs.

Tough, but that's the way it is.
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Hoppy said:
I'm not interested in either Mekaku City Actors or Mahouka, they are far too overhyped and my turnover rate for really overhyped anime like those is close to 98%.


They really do seem to come and go each season don't they. Something about Aniplex's blockbusters just kind of feels soulless and assembly line, but like they're trying to go for an Inception type deal where their output is accepted as deep and involving but the results are always mixed and split the fanbase since it's kind of hard to do a mature complex show while also trying to pander to otaku/fujoshi or whatever to keep sales up. There attempts at shows with heavy sci-fi themes tend to turn out the worst of the bunch and yet consistently seem like their most hyped up and that promise the biggest things.

I mean they are capable of producing some good shows don't get me wrong, but I'm kind of struggling to think of anything they've ever produced of late that didn't feel massively overhyped/overpromised and that I ever felt like revisiting down the line or that as you put it doesn't feel like it just logically turns over to the next big hyped show they put out in the following season. Maybe Attack on Titan? Fate/Zero might have counted if they didn't deliberately cut out the one story arc I was most interested in seeing the resolution to and made it Blu-Ray exclusive.

I mean honestly I could go all day about the things that Aniplex produced shows tend to do in putting commercialism over just delivering a good solid memorable show that just drive me up the wall and how almost any example of a studio working independently of them tends to turn out better albeit not as popular, but I figure I've said enough over the course of the last month or so and will leave it at that. Just glad to know there's somebody else that kind of feels the same way or has been paying attention enough to notice the same trends I do.

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Kaioshin_Sama said:


I knew that had to be it. Man there really are just an extremely limited number of ways in which a show can sell nowadays.


I'm afraid so. Unless it appeal to a mainstream audience, which anime almost never does, a show you has to either be popular with otaku or fujoshi. At least, I think so. Which is why mainstream stuff which is rarely made into an anime(like shoujo manga for instance) is now made into live actions(which I loathe sigh...poor me lol) because they don't sell discs.

Tough, but that's the way it is.


Gundam Unicorn managed to achieve a mini-miracle by getting older fans to come out and buy the shows and go see the screenings in theaters, but that's really the only example I can think of where a show just really has nothing I can see modern otaku/fujoshi gravitating heavily towards yet is a mega-hit. Of course that's an OVA series with movie quality animation so it's kind of different.
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When will we get BD sales for Noragami?
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When will we get BD sales for Noragami?

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I'm not interested in either Mekaku City Actors or Mahouka, they are far too overhyped and my turnover rate for really overhyped anime like those is close to 98%.

GET HYPED!!!

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Hype - hyper - hy(ly) pis't

It makes more sense if you say it out loud.
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Hoppy said:
I'm not interested in either Mekaku City Actors or Mahouka, they are far too overhyped and my turnover rate for really overhyped anime like those is close to 98%.

I see, so because people are hyping over it, you're not interested? i kind of don't understand.Its like you let people control whats interesting and what isnt.Of course im not saying overhyped anime are always good or anything (because they can turn out to be shitty, which happens kind of often), but like, give it a chance yourself, and then say ''it wasnt worth all the hype'' or something.You might actually miss good anime because of that attitude.
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Hoppy said:
I'm not interested in either Mekaku City Actors or Mahouka, they are far too overhyped and my turnover rate for really overhyped anime like those is close to 98%.

I see, so because people are hyping over it, you're not interested? i kind of don't understand.Its like you let people control whats interesting and what isnt.Of course im not saying overhyped anime are always good or anything (because it can turn out to be shitty), but like, give it a chance yourself, and then say ''it wasnt worth all the hype'' or something.You might actually miss good anime because of that attitude.


A lot of the time, when people hype things up like no tomorrow, people are likely to get disappointed more easily. It's more prudent to wait till it finishes and get the general consensus from a trusted source, before watching it.
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Wait for reviews? Not for me. I watch every new show, at least a few minutes or a few episodes if possible before deciding if I like it or not.

I don't get caught up in any hype one way or the other either. For me at least, the only opinion that counts is mine alone. If I like a show and no one else likes it... who cares? I like it! If I don't like it but everyone else says it's great? So what? It just isn't for me in that case.

With anime being free or cheap to watch the first time this is easy to do of course. Dropping even $11 on a movie ticket to see Madoka 3 or AnoHana movie in the theatre was a bit of a gamble but still well worth seeing it before being ruined by all kinds of reviews, often which these days seem to be intended to make the reviewer sound cool rather than doing a good job of a review. Reviewers don't like to give high marks to shows which most people are going to hate so they are completely useless to me.
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hpulley said:
Wait for reviews? Not for me. I watch every new show, at least a few minutes or a few episodes if possible before deciding if I like it or not.

I don't get caught up in any hype one way or the other either. For me at least, the only opinion that counts is mine alone. If I like a show and no one else likes it... who cares? I like it! If I don't like it but everyone else says it's great? So what? It just isn't for me in that case.

With anime being free or cheap to watch the first time this is easy to do of course. Dropping even $11 on a movie ticket to see Madoka 3 or AnoHana movie in the theatre was a bit of a gamble but still well worth seeing it before being ruined by all kinds of reviews, often which these days seem to be intended to make the reviewer sound cool rather than doing a good job of a review. Reviewers don't like to give high marks to shows which most people are going to hate so they are completely useless to me.


I just try to make my own decisions ultimately and pretty much don't take recommendations or look at what's popular or well reviewed anymore unless I really trust the source (I just don't have very similar tastes to your average fan these days that they could give something a good review and I can be assured that it'd translate well into me enjoying something the same way) or it looks like it'd be up my alley in the first place. There's some really hyped popular stuff that I've kind of liked of course such as Attack on Titan, Yamato 2199, Jojo, Fate/Zero Gundam Unicorn etc. and also some really hyped popular stuff that I just can't get into at all or flat out can't even stomach like Monogatari series, Key Adaptations, Sword Art Online, K-On etc.

Just looking at the more hyped/anticipated stuff next season from both Japanese and Western audiences, Jojo, Mahouka and Mushishi seem like or are already established as being up my alley so I'm totally looking forward to them. Stuff like Mekaku City Actors (premise doesn't appeal to me, notoriously bad track record with SHAFT adaptations, seems like it would mainly appeal to Japanese otaku/fujoshi etc.), Captain Earth (Bad track record with staff and their previous attempt at a mecha series otherwise looks promising enough), Love Live S2 (Tentatively interested cause I like most of Sunrises work but realistically not exactly hyped for more of this at all and wish the studio was doing more of other properties I did enjoy like Accel World).

I'll likely give everything a chance, but I've kind of gotta be realistic about my expectations here. As for the like it versus doesn't like it comment you made, I'll just say that a good chunk of the reason for my on again off again harshness towards certain fan groups and shows has to do with getting harassed and shitposted on for not repeating the gospel about certain mega popular shows got kind of old. It's harmless stuff in the long run as you say, but it's consistent and makes me groan enough for it to kind of make it just the slightest bit personal from a certain standpoint. I just sort of get tired of having to constantly explain to people that yes hard as it is to believe I'm not a big fan of hyped show x or y and the grumpiness comes out.

It's always good when posters like you come into these threads and have something a little more insightful to say. You're kind of one of the good ones Hpulley, like I feel like even if we don't necessarily share the same tastes I can definitely communicate with you more than most on MAL.
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I've found that opinions/impressions on anime can differ by a lot so you might want to take any reviews, ratings, or "consensus" with a grain of salt. I'm probably going to check out Rettousei, not sure about Mekaku.

Edit: Ehhh hpulley's wack he ummm...has a haircutting fetish and likes loli assassins/teachers! Or something like that...lol
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hpulley said:
You missed Little Challenger by I-1 Club.


Added, thanks.

Also, 2nd post has been updated.
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Edit: Ehhh hpulley's wack he ummm...has a haircutting fetish and likes loli assassins/teachers! Or something like that...lol
I most certainly am and do ! I love Dansai Bunri no Crime Edge and the hair service in GJ Bu was probably the best part for me. Sadly no more Crime Edge anime but the manga continued thankfully.

LoveLive!2 is the show I am looking forward to the most. Only one I'm really hyped for so far. Got my Memorial BOX II Solo Live! today and absolutely love it. Can't wait for the new OP and ED and IS!
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Witch Craft Works woot

I know the manga isn't very ahead but i hope they make a second season soon.
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tsubasalover said:


CD Single
45. *1,411 *11,148 Kill la Kill OP "ambiguous" by GARNiDeLiA
74. **,768 **7,531 Gundam Build Fighters OP "wimp ft. Lil'Fang (from FAKY)" by BACK-ON
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I'm glad that both of these singles are selling well. I can't stop listening to them....for now xD
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Kuroko no Basket going strong I see *^* Season 3 pleaseee
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tsubasalover said:

*2. 12,135 12,135 Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch R2 Blu-ray BOX
*6. *6,653 *6,653 Non Non Biyori Vol.4
*7. *6,352 *6,352 High School DxD New Vol.6
*8. *4,760 *4,760 Nisekoi Vol.1 Limited Edition
*9. *4,571 *4,571 Choujigen Game Neptune: The Animation Vol.7
10. *4,418 *4,418 Witch Craft Works Vol.1


DVD
*3. 3,029 *,**3,029 Noragami Vol.1 Limited Edition
*5. 2,283 *,**2,283 Magi: The Kingdom of Magic Vol.3 Limited Edition
*6. 1,686 *,**1,686 Nisekoi Vol.1 Limited Edition
*7. 1,675 *,**1,675 High School DxD New Vol.6
*8. 1,648 *,*11,053 Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.9
10. 1,112 *,**1,112 Choujigen Game Neptune: The Animation Vol.7

14. *,758 1,242,417 Tonari no Totoro

CD Single
27. *2,574 *15,028 Free! Character Song Duet Series 004 Haruka Nanase and Rin Matsuoka (REAL WAVE) by Haruka Nanase (CV: Nobunaga Shimazaki) & Rin Matsuoka (CV: Mamoru Miyano)
45. *1,411 *11,148 Kill la Kill OP "ambiguous" by GARNiDeLiA
50. *1,268 **1,268 Hamatora The Animation Character File Series File-01 Nice "Flag Day" by Nice (CV: Ryouta Ohsaka)
55. *1,099 **1,099 Hamatora The Animation Character File Series File-02 Murasaki "Flee to Fly" by Murasaki (CV: Wataru Hatano)
60. *1,024 *30,483 Magi: The Kingdom of Magic ED "With You/With Me" by 9nine
62. *1,006 **7,412 Noragami ED "Heart Realize" by Tia
66. **,965 *11,130 Golden Time OP/ED "The World's End" by Yui Horie
75. **,763 *34,223 Nisekoi OP "CLICK" by ClariS
76. **,754 *10,088 Kuroko no Basket 2nd Season Character Song Solo Series Vol. 16 "Rifujin ni" by Atsushi Murasakibara (CV: Kenichi Suzumura)
86. **,612 *11,418 Mikakunin de Shinkoukei OP "Tomadoi→Recipe" by Mikakuning!
88. **,602 *13,441 Noragami OP "Goya no Machiawase" by Hello Sleepwalkers
93. **,577 253,810 Shingeki no Kyojin OP "Jiyuu e no Shingeki (Guren no Yumiya/Jiyuu no Tsubasa)" by Linked Horizon
98. **,537 *10,341 Mikakunin de Shinkoukei ED "Masshiro World" by Mikakuning!


Glad to see that the things I like are selling quite well...
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Go KUROKO. Sell more!!
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Where is Space Dandy ? Kill la kill ?

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Where is Space Dandy ? Kill la kill ?

Space dandy did not come out this week(not that it would have ranked in the top 20 BD list in such a busy week), neither did Kill La Kill.

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First volume sales updated with todays Top 100 BD rankings

7,417 - Engaged to the Unidentified
7,200 - Chuunibyou 2
6,446 - Nisekoi
5,917 - Saki 2
5,813 - Noragami
4,418 - Witchcraft Works
4,095 - Seitokai Yakuindomo 2
3,611 - Sonico
3,398 - Maken-Ki 2
2,959 - Wake Up Girls
2,768 - World Conquest Zvezda Plot
2,691 - D-Frag!
2,555 - Sakura Trick
1,977 - Inari Konkon
1,742 - My Lil Sister is kinda Weird
1,141 - Buddy Complex

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First volume sales updated with todays Top 100 BD rankings

7,417 - Engaged to the Unidentified
7,200 - Chuunibyou 2
6,446 - Nisekoi
5,917 - Saki 2
5,813 - Noragami
4,418 - Witchcraft Works
4,095 - Seitokai Yakuindomo 2
3,611 - Sonico
3,398 - Maken-Ki 2
2,959 - Wake Up Girls
2,768 - World Conquest Zvezda Plot
2,691 - D-Frag!
2,555 - Sakura Trick
1,977 - Inari Konkon
1,742 - My Lil Sister is kinda Weird
1,141 - Buddy Complex


Ohhh D-Frag! actually didn't do too bad! Nice! Thanks btw.
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TheAwakenHD said:
Where is Space Dandy ? Kill la kill ?
dont expect space dandy to even sell remotely well when it actually does come out

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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3,398 - Maken-Ki 2

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Space Dandy will probably sell like 1.5-2k or so. It'll be tough to tell if its really successful or not since we'll never know the type of sales it has in America or how much they even make from them since they'd charge like 1/10th what Japan does.

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Space Dandy will probably sell like 1.5-2k or so. It'll be tough to tell if its really successful or not since we'll never know the type of sales it has in America or how much they even make from them since they'd charge like 1/10th what Japan does.
i think they dont care about sales of anything in the us, thats never really helped make anything a success, they probably care more about just ratings or something elsewhere in the world.

I remember someone in the bones fanclub posting an interview with one of their heads and that person was talking about how they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity, aka they still have a shit ton of money leftover from FMA to fuck around

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Did the delay of the last volume of DxD cause to sales to dip?
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they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity, aka they still have a shit ton of money leftover from FMA to fuck around

Much respect to the Bone's staff for putting creativity over sales. Also, I didn't know we had a Bones club, joining immediately.
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JizzyHitler said:
they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity, aka they still have a shit ton of money leftover from FMA to fuck around

Much respect to the Bone's staff for putting creativity over sales. Also, I didn't know we had a Bones club, joining immediately.

But bones is not the company that funds Space Dandy, so I have no idea what that "interview" is talking about.

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If Bones really "Didn't care about the money they were using", then nobody would hire them since they're just a subcontractor that get hired by the producers who actually fund the shows. Would you want to hire someone who admits to wasting money and not trying to make a product that'll sell?

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First volume sales updated with todays Top 100 BD rankings

7,417 - Engaged to the Unidentified
7,200 - Chuunibyou 2
6,446 - Nisekoi
5,917 - Saki 2
5,813 - Noragami
4,418 - Witchcraft Works
4,095 - Seitokai Yakuindomo 2
3,611 - Sonico
3,398 - Maken-Ki 2
2,959 - Wake Up Girls
2,768 - World Conquest Zvezda Plot
2,691 - D-Frag!
2,555 - Sakura Trick
1,977 - Inari Konkon
1,742 - My Lil Sister is kinda Weird
1,141 - Buddy Complex
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WUG bombed. FUCK YEA.

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If Bones really "Didn't care about the money they were using", then nobody would hire them since they're just a subcontractor that get hired by the producers who actually fund the shows. Would you want to hire someone who admits to wasting money and not trying to make a product that'll sell?


Yeah to me that seems like bs. I doubt Bones is putting up all of the money required to make the show (if it's even putting up ANY of the money...), so even if Bones wasn't interested in making a profit/sales (which I doubt...) what about everyone else on the production committee?

As nice as that might be to believe that they are more interested in their craft than their profits, it seems unlikely that they would be willing to sink a lot of money into anime they expect to sell poorly. Anyways, at least Noragami v1 did pretty well for Bones right?
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If you want to see an ACTUAL interview with Toshihiro Kawamoto of BONES rather than something that is probably just made up in someone's mind, Crunchryoll interviewed him last year:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-802661/sakura-con-interviews-toshihiro-kawamoto-reki-kawahara-eir-aoi-luna-haruna
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hpulley said:
If you want to see an ACTUAL interview with Toshihiro Kawamoto of BONES rather than something that is probably just made up in someone's mind, Crunchryoll interviewed him last year:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-802661/sakura-con-interviews-toshihiro-kawamoto-reki-kawahara-eir-aoi-luna-haruna


I found the interview https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2013-10-25/interview-bones-studio-president-masahiko-minami


I cba to read it though.

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rederoin said:
hpulley said:
If you want to see an ACTUAL interview with Toshihiro Kawamoto of BONES rather than something that is probably just made up in someone's mind, Crunchryoll interviewed him last year:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-802661/sakura-con-interviews-toshihiro-kawamoto-reki-kawahara-eir-aoi-luna-haruna


I found the interview https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2013-10-25/interview-bones-studio-president-masahiko-minami


I cba to read it though.

Probably referring loosely to these sections:
Q: Recently, we've seen a lot of major talent leave established animation studios and form their own production houses, even as the anime industry faces some serious struggles. As BONES was formed by ex-Sunrise staff quite some time ago, I'm curious to hear your personal take on this. Do you think these new studios will survive and thrive in such a crowded, strapped market?

A: There are always reasons why someone wants to separate from a company – usually it's because they want to create something new, and unfortunately can't do so in that environment. So they go off in order to make the new content they want to. It's not always fun, but it's kind of like fate – it happens when it happens, there's no stopping it.

Money is an issue, though – it's very tough, especially when you're just getting off the ground, to set budgets and get talented people. But there are always young minds and new creators coming forwards who want to create something with their hearts. In general, these productions don't make a lot of money! *laughs* So when you separate from a company, you're not doing it for financial gain, but to sate your creative desires.

Q: Isn't that rather indicative of some of the current issues with the anime business, though? People don't get paid enough, shows live and die by sponsors, merchandising, and DVD sales…

A: Yes, it's true the industry has issues. It's been written about in newspapers, it gets published online, it gets publicized a lot – it's a big deal. But it doesn't apply to all of anime, animators, and studios. It's true that there are people who don't get paid much. The people who truly love creating – they still get their means of living, but it's far from a celebrity life. They are artists at heart. If they have the heart and believe in the work, they'll be paid.
Apr 5, 2014 10:44 AM
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hpulley said:
rederoin said:
hpulley said:
If you want to see an ACTUAL interview with Toshihiro Kawamoto of BONES rather than something that is probably just made up in someone's mind, Crunchryoll interviewed him last year:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-802661/sakura-con-interviews-toshihiro-kawamoto-reki-kawahara-eir-aoi-luna-haruna


I found the interview https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2013-10-25/interview-bones-studio-president-masahiko-minami


I cba to read it though.

Probably referring loosely to these sections:
Q: Recently, we've seen a lot of major talent leave established animation studios and form their own production houses, even as the anime industry faces some serious struggles. As BONES was formed by ex-Sunrise staff quite some time ago, I'm curious to hear your personal take on this. Do you think these new studios will survive and thrive in such a crowded, strapped market?

A: There are always reasons why someone wants to separate from a company – usually it's because they want to create something new, and unfortunately can't do so in that environment. So they go off in order to make the new content they want to. It's not always fun, but it's kind of like fate – it happens when it happens, there's no stopping it.

Money is an issue, though – it's very tough, especially when you're just getting off the ground, to set budgets and get talented people. But there are always young minds and new creators coming forwards who want to create something with their hearts. In general, these productions don't make a lot of money! *laughs* So when you separate from a company, you're not doing it for financial gain, but to sate your creative desires.

Q: Isn't that rather indicative of some of the current issues with the anime business, though? People don't get paid enough, shows live and die by sponsors, merchandising, and DVD sales…

A: Yes, it's true the industry has issues. It's been written about in newspapers, it gets published online, it gets publicized a lot – it's a big deal. But it doesn't apply to all of anime, animators, and studios. It's true that there are people who don't get paid much. The people who truly love creating – they still get their means of living, but it's far from a celebrity life. They are artists at heart. If they have the heart and believe in the work, they'll be paid.


Cool. Emphasis on LOOSELY by the way. But yeah I sort of suspected that the idea that they didn't care about money was not true. How much clearer can you get than "Money is an issue"? =P

However, I can believe that their motivation for separating from Sunrise was motivated by something other than money. That definitely could have been motivated by a desire to do different things (or do things differently) than what Sunrise is/was doing. But the idea that BONES has so much money that they don't care about making money anymore? Not so easy to believe.
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^Neither Jizzy or I ever implied that they didn't care about money but rather that creativity was more important to them.
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Apr 5, 2014 11:01 AM

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VioLink said:
^Neither Jizzy or I ever implied that they didn't care about money but rather that creativity was more important to them.

This part did imply it.



they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity


No subcontractor would admit to this, it would hurt their reputation.

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Apr 5, 2014 11:12 AM
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rederoin said:
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^Neither Jizzy or I ever implied that they didn't care about money but rather that creativity was more important to them.

This part did imply it.



they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity


No subcontractor would admit to this, it would hurt their reputation.


Or this part:

JizzyHitler said:
aka they still have a shit ton of money leftover from FMA to fuck around


To me, the idea that they had so much money they could "fuck around" seemed to imply that they didn't care about wasting money. Was that not how it was intended?

Edit: BTW I don't hate BONES. On the contrary, they've done some excellent work in my opinion, so please don't mistake me for a hater. I just think that profits are still an important motivation for them. More profit should mean more money for more projects which will hopefully lead to more good anime from them. That should be a good thing right? =)
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rederoin said:


they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity


No subcontractor would admit to this, it would hurt their reputation.

That's not "not caring about money" I'm sure their mindset isn't "lets waste money on this project its gonna sell like shit anyway". They made something they liked and it wasn't a big success, its a shame but its not like they said they are happy about it.
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VioLink said:
rederoin said:


they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity


No subcontractor would admit to this, it would hurt their reputation.

That's not "not caring about money" I'm sure their mindset isn't "lets waste money on this project its gonna sell like shit anyway". They made something they liked and it wasn't a big success, its a shame but its not like they said they are happy about it.


Once again, i'm talking about this part.

they really dont intend to be making any huge successes

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Hahalollawl said:
rederoin said:
VioLink said:
^Neither Jizzy or I ever implied that they didn't care about money but rather that creativity was more important to them.

This part did imply it.

they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity

No subcontractor would admit to this, it would hurt their reputation.

Or this part:
JizzyHitler said:
aka they still have a shit ton of money leftover from FMA to fuck around

To me, the idea that they had so much money they could "fuck around" seemed to imply that they didn't care about wasting money. Was that not how it was intended?

Edit: BTW I don't hate BONES. On the contrary, they've done some excellent work in my opinion, so please don't mistake me for a hater. I just think that profits are still an important motivation for them. More profit should mean more money for more projects which will hopefully lead to more good anime from them. That should be a good thing right? =)

Jizzy likes Space Dandy and most Bones shows so his "fuck around" does not equate to "Make crappy anime for the hell of it".

rederoin said:
VioLink said:
rederoin said:

they really dont intend to be making any huge successes with their work and are ok taking a hit for creative integrity

No subcontractor would admit to this, it would hurt their reputation.

That's not "not caring about money" I'm sure their mindset isn't "lets waste money on this project its gonna sell like shit anyway". They made something they liked and it wasn't a big success, its a shame but its not like they said they are happy about it.

Once again, i'm talking about this part.

they really dont intend to be making any huge successes

What is humility?


Mod Edit: double post merged.
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