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View Poll Results: Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 Episode 9 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 117 | 78.00% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 26 | 17.33% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 5 | 3.33% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 0.00% | ||
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 2 | 1.33% |
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#21
09-04-09, 1:24 PM
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The whole scene with Mari thinking her daughter and mother was dead kinda annoyed me....it just felt unrealistic. Obviously this anime likes fooling with us in thinking people are dead when they really aren't and vice versa. ;] Aaahhhh, can't wait for the next episode. I'm sure it'll be a sad and good one. |
#22
09-04-09, 1:44 PM
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Maybe by the end of the series, they'll convince us that everyone actually died at the first episode when the quake hit.... mwahahaha. Grimmm said: It might be uncommon, but this actually happens a lot in actual disasters... especially when people are scrambling to organize and identify a flood of corpses. It's human nature to fear the worst when something horrible happens, and it's difficult to figure out what actually happened when everything is displaced and you have incomplete information.The whole scene with Mari thinking her daughter and mother was dead kinda annoyed me....it just felt unrealistic. Obviously this anime likes fooling with us in thinking people are dead when they really aren't and vice versa. ;] Don't forget that Japan has had large devastating earthquakes in the past, among other natural and unnatural disasters... and I've heard similar stories surrounding the 1906 San Francisco earthquake near where I live where people were reunited long afterward each assuming the other was dead. It's easy to say the director is just trying to screw with us to make it more dramatic, but there are plenty of factual cases of it happening. |
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09-04-09, 2:22 PM
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oo i wonder what he was planning to ask at the end =/ saka said: Maybe by the end of the series, they'll convince us that everyone actually died at the first episode when the quake hit.... mwahahaha. LOL the past 10 episodes were jsut all a dream =D saka said: Grimmm said: It might be uncommon, but this actually happens a lot in actual disasters... especially when people are scrambling to organize and identify a flood of corpses. It's human nature to fear the worst when something horrible happens, and it's difficult to figure out what actually happened when everything is displaced and you have incomplete information.The whole scene with Mari thinking her daughter and mother was dead kinda annoyed me....it just felt unrealistic. Obviously this anime likes fooling with us in thinking people are dead when they really aren't and vice versa. ;] yep it does happen |
#24
09-04-09, 3:27 PM
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Online Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 7391 |
Mirai being convinced by a dead apparition of her brother to go look for Hina and Mari's mom actually leading her to find them is pretty unconvincing. Anyway. I'm convinced Yuuki's dead now after Mari's "isshoni tte?" line. |
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09-04-09, 4:27 PM
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Urgh, I'm convinced also. They probably won't reveal stuff until the end of the anime, which works for me. I'm glad Mari found her peoples, I was like "not them too!" at one time. Good epd. |
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09-04-09, 5:51 PM
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windy said: Mirai being convinced by a dead apparition of her brother to go look for Hina and Mari's mom actually leading her to find them is pretty unconvincing. Anyway. I'm convinced Yuuki's dead now after Mari's "isshoni tte?" line. When you put it that way it is pretty unconvincing. Though I just thought of it as, since Yuuki is just being projected from Mirai's conscience, she was the one who truly felt that maybe Hina and her grandmother were alive, and was convincing herself to go look for them :) But that's just my opinion. And yes, I'm also convinced he's dead. ![]() |
#27
09-04-09, 6:35 PM
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Online Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 4300 |
So, is Mirai's denial going to break? Impatient for the next episode.... bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
#28
09-04-09, 6:40 PM
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Wow, I guess I was off the mark. I didn't read any discussions and watched ep 8 and 9 back to back. What I thought was that Mari tried to call Mirai's parents and found out that they were dead, and that was what the papers were about. And the "Yuuki and you?" part I thought of as Mari realizing that Mirai knows her parents are dead too. Same with Yuuki saying "You know..." at the end, meaning you know about our parents. And in regards to her saying sorry to Mirai on the bridge, I took that as a "Sorry I let him get sick." Although the points do seems more than valid for Yuuki being dead instead. I think it's pretty obvious now that I look through it again. He says "You know..." because Mirai knows he's dead on the inside she just doesn't want to admit it. That flashback jump started her memory, but she's doing the "If I don't acknowledge it, it's not true" thing. Well I think that just set a 10/10 rating in stone for this show. |
#29
09-04-09, 7:31 PM
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the dead person for some reason why do they make them look like her relatives .. make ppl misunderstand the situation ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
#30
09-04-09, 7:59 PM
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Yuuki's dead, it's obvious, and I didn't really had to see this ep to be sure about it. Grimmm said: The whole scene with Mari thinking her daughter and mother was dead kinda annoyed me....it just felt unrealistic. For me it lacked too much impact to be the real deal, almost no emotions, no sadness, it was clearly not them (especially if you compare with what happened in the previous episode). Now it's time for Mirai to realize what really happened to Yuuki, I suppose it will take the whole ep 10... |
#31
09-04-09, 8:03 PM
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I'm seriously shocked. Came here without knowledge of this(pretty much confirmed) theory of dead Yuuki and Mirai in denial. What a great way to develop the story. Kinda sad I didn't find out through the show itself though. D: |
#32
09-04-09, 8:08 PM
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somehow I anticipate: * Mari looses her cool * Mirai gets bitchslapped * reconciliation and new purpose ...maybe after all the curve balls they'll mix it up with a straight? |
#33
09-04-09, 8:21 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 413 |
Really great episode. When I first started watching this show it was really interesting...then for like a couple episodes or so it got slightly less interesting. Since the robot episode though I think this show got really interesting again. Really want to see the next episode now. Only two episodes left....but I guess that's about right since they shouldn't drag this out for too long. |
#34
09-04-09, 9:33 PM
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Oh man. This ep was and the next ep probably will be bawwwww a fest. ;_____; |
#35
09-04-09, 11:16 PM
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UnknownFact said: I went thru eps 8 & 9 to see how are you so convinced the kid died. I don't know, in episode 8 when Mirai says Mari that she was looking for Yuuki she doesn't look that overwhelmed by the idea that Mirai is having issues with the kid's passing away. check for it around 15:40. Well if you notice Yuuki has his backpack.. But Mari also has one. They tried tricking us this episode with the Backpack. There are other parts where they had Yuuki following Mirari but when they show her moving around and running he isn't behind her. Wait... if the kid died they should look for his parents to give them the info right? And in that process they take Mirai too... unless Mari san asked otherwise... I think that is what Mari was trying to do last episode when she was using the phone. Besides they ARE trying to get the home. It is also one of the reasons why Mari wanted to be there when and if Mirari found her parents. This episode was a roller coaster with the scare of what hapened to Hina and Grandma. I was wonder how the people could be so cruel as to do this when I first saw the two bodies in the "morgue". It seemed like Mirari realized Yuuki was dead while they were in the Hallway, shown by yuuki trying to tell her something. We get this again at the end of the episode where he goes to tell her something before it fades out. She seems to know but doesn't want to accept it. But another tear jerker with the reunion between Hina and Mari. And what a great teacher they had looking after Hina. |
#37
09-05-09, 12:44 AM
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UnknownFact said: I don't know, in episode 8 when Mirai says Mari that she was looking for Yuuki she doesn't look that overwhelmed by the idea that Mirai is having issues with the kid's passing away. check for it around 15:40. So I guess it's not that bad me thinking he was still alive even after ep 9 lol... But Mari doesn't talk to Yuuki even once... also the "Mirai san, ishoni itte???" part at the end of ep 9 says a lot so.. I guess you are right. Ah I felt so spoiled lol but it's ok... it's on the show. But Mari didn't say a thing about Mirai talking to herself... but that's ok since it was Mirai making it all up... It also should have been sad for Mari san so she decided not to tell Mirai and perhaps wait for her parents to take care of that... Wait... if the kid died they should look for his parents to give them the info right? And in that process they take Mirai too... unless Mari san asked otherwise... Hm not 100% convincing... got any input? i kind of need it lol edit: hmm i find it interesting that Mari san just stays silent when Mirai talks to her about Yuuki... she was going to say something to Mirai chan in ep 8 (around 18:10) so i just overlooked that... aah that happens when you don't take a show seriously :S taking it seriously now The thing is that Mirai was right beside Mari when the doctor came out of surgery and told them that they lost Yuuki. So the Yuuki we see is, as other posters have mentioned, just a projection from Mirai's mind. With the flashbacks, it's starting to sink in but she doesn't want to accept it. I suspect that some of those times when Mirai was "talking" to Yuuki, she wasn't speaking loud enough for Mari to hear. Then there are little slips like in the beginning, when "Yuuki" and Mirai were talking about the big construction vehicles. When Mari turned around and asked what she said, Mirai said, "I was thinking...." not "we". She said "I". She knows, and "Yuuki" and the flashbacks are trying to get her to accept it. They did a fantastic job trying to trick us with the backpack. However, what confirmed it for me were the to instances where the camera showed Mirai and Yuuki but when the angle switched to Mari's point of view or the medical guy @ the end who asked Mirai if her leg was ingjured - we only see Mirai. Also, there was one scene where they started to run and I only heard two sets of footsteps. What drove the point home was the backpack was left behind, even though we saw Yuuki carrying it when "they" boarded the truck at the end. |
#38
09-05-09, 1:06 AM
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I'm loving this series so much, best of the season because of these couple of episodes. I'm buying it when it's released. I can't WAIT for the next episode. |
#39
09-05-09, 7:29 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 13 |
DANG IT!!!CLIFFHANGERR!!!! |
#40
09-05-09, 7:52 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 268 |
Now i'm 90% sure that Yuuki is already dead. He never interact with anyone but Mirai in this episode, even Mari didn't touch or talk to him like she usually did. Also Yuuki's sureness that Mari's mom and Hina is still alive is also strenghten the theory that Yuuki is already dead. And don't forget Mirai's flashback and Mari being somewhat confused when she read "Yuuki & I". I hope things will be resolved in the next episode |












