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Jun 1, 2015 4:23 PM

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AttackOnTetris said:

Yeah, existing for the sole purpose of being eye candy for men is "sexist". And coincidentally, that's what "being a woman" entails for most shounen.

Are you even self aware, that you didn't even watch most shounen, or a good amount of them, let alone, the ones that are so sexist?

Can you please give examples, and stop talking out of your ass?
Jun 1, 2015 4:34 PM

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KLKfanboy said:

No. Sexism is discrimination towards a person based on their gender.
Having some expectations about a gender is perfectly normal and has nothing to do with sexism.

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And expectations =/= gender roles so please don't be going there


Gender roles are sexist. They discriminate a sex's abilities and desires based on their genitalia. Gender roles are a part of sexism, while sexism is a larger that that.

Other than the expectation of having certain chromosomes, what do you expect out of different sexes?
How do people get to 2000 hours when I'm already this bored?
Jun 1, 2015 4:36 PM

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Crimefridge said:
KLKfanboy said:

No. Sexism is discrimination towards a person based on their gender.
Having some expectations about a gender is perfectly normal and has nothing to do with sexism.

. . .
And expectations =/= gender roles so please don't be going there


Gender roles are sexist. They discriminate a sex's abilities and desires based on their genitalia. Gender roles are a part of sexism, while sexism is a larger that that.


I wasn't talking about gender roles but expectations you can have of a gender (this and that is not the same). Please read the discussion, because it's the second time in this thread today you're writing a post out of nowhere like that.
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Hmm terra formara but it isnt shonen soo.. :/
Jun 1, 2015 5:34 PM

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Crimefridge said:
Gender roles are sexist. They discriminate a sex's abilities and desires based on their genitalia. Gender roles are a part of sexism, while sexism is a larger that that.

Other than the expectation of having certain chromosomes, what do you expect out of different sexes?


By that definition EVERY fiction that has pregnant women would be "sexist", i.e. showing a natural part of live (that in itself is not something intimate, unlike sex-scenes) would be regarded as "morally repulsive" (because that is what every use of the word "sexist" usually includes). I think we should arrest all men on the world for impregnating women then, how dare they do something so sexist as "forcing" women the gender-role of a "pregnant woman"! No longer! Time for population to die out and end humanity! Or if you want humanity to survive, you must from now on use machines to replace womens' wombs, so they are not forced into the gender-role!


Yes this was over-exaggerating, but I am just showing how far one could go with that argument and why that makes it really not worthy of consideration.
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Jun 1, 2015 7:29 PM

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KLKfanboy said:


oh expectations of a gender THAT'S SO SEXIST XDDDD
That is sexist. That's actually like, the definition of sexism.

You're confining and limiting people based on their sex. You're keeping them in designated jail cells, from which they are not allowed to escape. You are their thought police. Gender roles is sexism.


Realism does not equal sexism. >_<
Jun 1, 2015 10:13 PM

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LOL AOT makes the males look like little bitches. Mikasa and Annie shit on every guy that's not Levi. So what if women aren't powerful in a genre directed towards a "MALE" audience? I will admit the fanservice is a bit much, I could do with less of that. IMO I like most females in Shonen.

Keiko (YYH), Mamori (Eyeshield), Nami, Robin, Perona, Vivi, Margret, Tashigi (One Piece), Kyoko (KHR), etc.
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