| Pretty much only FMA:B from what I remember. Sexism sadly is still quite inherent in japanese culture and media. And most of shonen genre things can't help but display misogynist tendencies towards their female characters, relegating them to support |
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Fai said: Pretty much only FMA:B from what I remember. Sexism sadly is still quite inherent in japanese culture and media. And most of shonen genre things can't help but display misogynist tendencies towards their female characters, relegating them to support If u look at my first post. I did include fmab, but it does has big breast. so no. That's the closes we will get. mattbenz99 said: Oneeyedwolf said: fmab. the setting makes in understandable that there arent many women in the military but all the women (few may they be) are all fucking badass. not to mention they show women doing what is typically considered a "man's job" like being an engineer or a bodyguard.You people still haven't given me a good anime that has the same amount of balance like Aot. So your bitching wont get you anywhere, you're just proving to me that I'm right. I find it funny u guys talk about all the so called flaws about aot female char, but yet you cant give me a anime that's better in that sense. I'll just continue to laugh at you bitching on the show. Keep proving me right. :D Look at my first post. I did include it. but it still has big breasted characters. mod Edit: double post merged. |
ThangLongMar 25, 2014 11:24 AM
Oneeyedwolf said: You people still haven't given me a good anime that has the same amount of balance like Aot. So your bitching wont get you anywhere, you're just proving to me that I'm right. I find it funny u guys talk about all the so called flaws about aot female char, but yet you cant give me a anime that's better in that sense. I'll just continue to laugh at you bitching on the show. Keep proving me right. :D until you undeniably and irrefutably prove these shows don't have "the same amount of balance like eotena onslaught", you are proving that you pretty much ignore everyone that proves you wrong |
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Oneeyedwolf said: Fai said: Pretty much only FMA:B from what I remember. Sexism sadly is still quite inherent in japanese culture and media. And most of shonen genre things can't help but display misogynist tendencies towards their female characters, relegating them to support If u look at my first post. I did include fmab, but it does has big breast. so no. That's the closes we will get. Arguably, having well-endowed females as well as not-well-endowed females is far more empowering than sexist. Sexist would be imply that someone with big breasts is somehow "unfit" or "wrong" to exist. FMA:B has body builds of all kinds but none of females are judged or objectified for their body, which negates the idea of sexist aspect of well endowed female figure. |
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| Come the fuck on, OP. If you're gonna reject an anime based on breast size what do you even expect people to say ? |
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Sapewloth said: Come the fuck on, OP. If you're gonna reject an anime based on breast size what do you even expect people to say ? Breast size IS an objective complaint though, as its a common sexist trope to objectify female body(groping for comedy, etc). Its not an objective complain in the way the OP uses it though. |
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Sapewloth said: Come the fuck on, OP. If you're gonna reject an anime based on breast size what do you even expect people to say ? By that logic, Ro Kyu Bu is undeniable gender equality. |
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romagia said: Oneeyedwolf said: You people still haven't given me a good anime that has the same amount of balance like Aot. So your bitching wont get you anywhere, you're just proving to me that I'm right. I find it funny u guys talk about all the so called flaws about aot female char, but yet you cant give me a anime that's better in that sense. I'll just continue to laugh at you bitching on the show. Keep proving me right. :D until you undeniably and irrefutably prove these shows don't have "the same amount of balance like eotena onslaught", you are proving that you pretty much ignore everyone that proves you wrong All of those have fan service in it. |
| >Mikasa is by far the most impressive female character in any shonen that I’ve seen or read thus far ^You just haven't seen enough. ALSO, OP replies in this thread http://i.imgur.com/FUAJjop.gif |
| I'd say Rurouni Kenshin, but ermagerd girls wearing kimonos? What the fxxx were they thinking? Sexist dogs! |
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Oneeyedwolf said: so are you saying that no women in reality have big breasts? i mean how does a woman having big boobs mean it is sexist? heck the manga was written by a womanmattbenz99 said: Oneeyedwolf said: fmab. the setting makes in understandable that there arent many women in the military but all the women (few may they be) are all fucking badass. not to mention they show women doing what is typically considered a "man's job" like being an engineer or a bodyguard.You people still haven't given me a good anime that has the same amount of balance like Aot. So your bitching wont get you anywhere, you're just proving to me that I'm right. I find it funny u guys talk about all the so called flaws about aot female char, but yet you cant give me a anime that's better in that sense. I'll just continue to laugh at you bitching on the show. Keep proving me right. :D Look at my first post. I did include it. but it still has big breasted characters. |
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| OK, the only two I can consider is fmab and hunter x hunter. I will turn a blind eye to the big breasted characters in those shows. Happy now people. Everything else in those two anime meet my criteria as in gender balance so those get a pass. mattbenz99 said: Oneeyedwolf said: so are you saying that no women in reality have big breasts? i mean how does a woman having big boobs mean it is sexist? heck the manga was written by a womanmattbenz99 said: Oneeyedwolf said: fmab. the setting makes in understandable that there arent many women in the military but all the women (few may they be) are all fucking badass. not to mention they show women doing what is typically considered a "man's job" like being an engineer or a bodyguard.You people still haven't given me a good anime that has the same amount of balance like Aot. So your bitching wont get you anywhere, you're just proving to me that I'm right. I find it funny u guys talk about all the so called flaws about aot female char, but yet you cant give me a anime that's better in that sense. I'll just continue to laugh at you bitching on the show. Keep proving me right. :D Look at my first post. I did include it. but it still has big breasted characters. No. I'm saying only attack on titan does that. Every other mangaka either female or male ccant resist giving their characters big breast. While attack on titan don't. Mod Edit: double post merged. |
ThangLongMar 25, 2014 11:26 AM
Oneeyedwolf said: romagia said: Oneeyedwolf said: You people still haven't given me a good anime that has the same amount of balance like Aot. So your bitching wont get you anywhere, you're just proving to me that I'm right. I find it funny u guys talk about all the so called flaws about aot female char, but yet you cant give me a anime that's better in that sense. I'll just continue to laugh at you bitching on the show. Keep proving me right. :D until you undeniably and irrefutably prove these shows don't have "the same amount of balance like eotena onslaught", you are proving that you pretty much ignore everyone that proves you wrong All of those have fan service in it. annie was naked for like 5 full episodes; that's way more fanservicy than any of those shows ever been especially Kekkaishi which literally has no fan service, which you certainly wouldn't know, because you didn't made this thread to actually find out any shounen without big breasts, but to disagree with everyone |
romagiaMar 21, 2014 11:53 AM
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Fai said: Sapewloth said: Come the fuck on, OP. If you're gonna reject an anime based on breast size what do you even expect people to say ? Breast size IS an objective complaint though, as its a common sexist trope to objectify female body(groping for comedy, etc). Its not an objective complain in the way the OP uses it though. Yep that's exactly what I meant : the size of a character's breasts is not in itself something to complain about (rejecting an anime just because this woman's breasts are too big for your taste is nothing more than shaming). It only becomes legitimate when the character is objectified (see Code Geass for eg. great gender balance and many women in position of power but so much service it gives you a headache). Ratohnhaketon said: Sapewloth said: Come the fuck on, OP. If you're gonna reject an anime based on breast size what do you even expect people to say ? By that logic, Ro Kyu Bu is undeniable gender equality. Kodomo no Jikan would also qualify, I guess... |
SapewlothMar 21, 2014 12:31 PM
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Fai said: Sapewloth said: Come the fuck on, OP. If you're gonna reject an anime based on breast size what do you even expect people to say ? Breast size IS an objective complaint though, as its a common sexist trope to objectify female body(groping for comedy, etc). Because everyone knows that only big breast can be groped for comedy. That's probably why I didn't laugh when Kirito groped Asuna's breast in SAO. |
Sapewloth said: Fai said: Sapewloth said: Come the fuck on, OP. If you're gonna reject an anime based on breast size what do you even expect people to say ? Breast size IS an objective complaint though, as its a common sexist trope to objectify female body(groping for comedy, etc). Its not an objective complain in the way the OP uses it though. Yep that's exactly what I meant : the size of a character's breasts is not in itself something to complain about (rejecting an anime just because this woman's breasts are too big for your taste is nothing more than shaming). It only becomes legitimate when the character is objectified (see Code Geass for eg. great gender balance and many women in position of power but so much service it gives you a headache). Ratohnhaketon said: Sapewloth said: Come the fuck on, OP. If you're gonna reject an anime based on breast size what do you even expect people to say ? By that logic, Ro Kyu Bu is undeniable gender equality. Kodomo no Jikan would also qualify, I guess... I expect them to say nothing. Because there is no other battle shounen anime out there that doesn't have big breast. Aot is the only one that doesn't have these melons size breasted characters. |
Oneeyedwolf said: I expect them to say nothing. Because there is no other battle shounen anime out there that doesn't have big breast. Aot is the only one that doesn't have these melons size breasted characters. So creative. Much originality. I'll add 1 point to my previous ratings. |
| gintama barely has any women with big boobs. you rarely ever see any cleavage there...prob doesen't count as a battle shonen though^^ |
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Oneeyedwolf said: except all those martial arts shounenI expect them to say nothing. Because there is no other battle shounen anime out there that doesn't have big breast. Aot is the only one that doesn't have these melons size breasted characters. or are Kenshiro's breasts melon sized too? and shitty obscure shounen like Ou Dorobou Jing, but those don't count because you haven't heard of them |
romagiaMar 21, 2014 12:44 PM
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Oneeyedwolf said: I expect them to say nothing. Because there is no other battle shounen anime out there that doesn't have big breast. Aot is the only one that doesn't have these melons size breasted characters. You certainly won the internet OP. Go grab some boobs now. |
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| How is this not locked yet. I get banned for a fucking Toy Story quote, and this shit stays open and goes on for 14 pages. Sigh.. But LOL at everybody complaining female sexism in terms of body types presented. In shounen. Where every guy is a big muscly hunk who exists to punch things and be punched. lol |
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Red_Keys said: Where every guy is a big muscly hunk who exists to punch things and be punched. lol That's not true and I doubt you can back it up. |
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tsudecimo said: He can't and look at his favorite anime.Red_Keys said: Where every guy is a big muscly hunk who exists to punch things and be punched. lol That's not true and I doubt you can back it up. |
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tsudecimo said: http://images.sgcafe.net/2013/01/one-piece-film-z-all-characters.pngRed_Keys said: Where every guy is a big muscly hunk who exists to punch things and be punched. lol That's not true and I doubt you can back it up. http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15100000/Naruto-characters-naruto-15115348-1024-768.jpg http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130705193021/fairytail/images/d/d3/Fairy_Tail_Members.jpg http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/800x600/human-sex/95808/human-sex-oswald-royse-bleach-characters-captains-95808.jpg http://www.entravity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/shingeki-no-kyojin-wallpaper-levi-eren-mikasa.jpg There is not a single unfit male character. Except for like, the literal walking skeleton. |
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Red_Keys said: Yes in the Fairy Tail pic the guy in the top left was fat. And did you miss the small raccoon in the One Piece pic? Besides those pics are not of all the characters.tsudecimo said: http://images.sgcafe.net/2013/01/one-piece-film-z-all-characters.pngRed_Keys said: Where every guy is a big muscly hunk who exists to punch things and be punched. lol That's not true and I doubt you can back it up. http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15100000/Naruto-characters-naruto-15115348-1024-768.jpg http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130705193021/fairytail/images/d/d3/Fairy_Tail_Members.jpg http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/800x600/human-sex/95808/human-sex-oswald-royse-bleach-characters-captains-95808.jpg http://www.entravity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/shingeki-no-kyojin-wallpaper-levi-eren-mikasa.jpg There is not a single unfit male character. Except for like, the literal walking skeleton. Also Bakuman, Death Note, Lucky Star, etc. All shounens without fighting. |
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Red_Keys said: There is not a single unfit male character. Gecko Moria disagrees. |
IntroverTurtle said: first off since when is lucky star a shonen? secondly isnt this thread and conversation about battle shonen?Red_Keys said: Yes in the Fairy Tail pic the guy in the top left was fat. And did you miss the small raccoon in the One Piece pic? Besides those pics are not of all the characters.tsudecimo said: http://images.sgcafe.net/2013/01/one-piece-film-z-all-characters.pngRed_Keys said: Where every guy is a big muscly hunk who exists to punch things and be punched. lol That's not true and I doubt you can back it up. http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15100000/Naruto-characters-naruto-15115348-1024-768.jpg http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130705193021/fairytail/images/d/d3/Fairy_Tail_Members.jpg http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/800x600/human-sex/95808/human-sex-oswald-royse-bleach-characters-captains-95808.jpg http://www.entravity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/shingeki-no-kyojin-wallpaper-levi-eren-mikasa.jpg There is not a single unfit male character. Except for like, the literal walking skeleton. Also Bakuman, Death Note, Lucky Star, etc. All shounens without fighting. |
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| You said 'big muscly hunk' not 'fit' and you said 'every' and while that was probably an exaggeration, it must mean you think the majority are. None of the main characters from the anime in your links are like that, except for Natsu, Ichigo and some characters in their anime are just muscular, with very few being hunks. I don't even know why you linked the Naruto picture. It shows normal size people mostly. So yeah the majority are not 'big muscly hunks'. |
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mattbenz99 said: Since it was published in a fucking shounen magazine. And Red Keys said shounen.IntroverTurtle said: first off since when is lucky star a shonen? secondly isnt this thread and conversation about battle shonen?Red_Keys said: Yes in the Fairy Tail pic the guy in the top left was fat. And did you miss the small raccoon in the One Piece pic? Besides those pics are not of all the characters.tsudecimo said: http://images.sgcafe.net/2013/01/one-piece-film-z-all-characters.pngRed_Keys said: Where every guy is a big muscly hunk who exists to punch things and be punched. lol That's not true and I doubt you can back it up. http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15100000/Naruto-characters-naruto-15115348-1024-768.jpg http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130705193021/fairytail/images/d/d3/Fairy_Tail_Members.jpg http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/800x600/human-sex/95808/human-sex-oswald-royse-bleach-characters-captains-95808.jpg http://www.entravity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/shingeki-no-kyojin-wallpaper-levi-eren-mikasa.jpg There is not a single unfit male character. Except for like, the literal walking skeleton. Also Bakuman, Death Note, Lucky Star, etc. All shounens without fighting. |
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| ^ Lucky Star is a shounen. Because shounen is not a fucking genre like many people think, is simply a demographic. Mod Edit: quote tower fixed. |
ThangLongMar 25, 2014 11:29 AM
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| So it all comes down to boobs huh... |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
mattbenz99 said: first off since when is lucky star a shonen? Since the manga published in a Shounen Magazine. |
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mattbenz99 said: first off since when is lucky star a shonen? secondly isnt this thread and conversation about battle shonen? Read the title and the opening post. Where do you see the word battle? |
mattbenz99 said: sherlock5545 said: according to google the proper term for that is MastrophobiaYes, 14 pages of breastphobia. Totally missed that, thanks. Something worth reading on this thread. |
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| Oh good lord. It's obvious that OP is talking specifically about action battle shounens. Obviously SoL shows won't apply. But using Death Note as a counter example is pretty silly. But pointing out single characters who are outliers and don't fit the trend (especially when they have fantastically deformed cartoon bodies) doesn't help much. I'm sure there are one or two female characters in One Piece who don't have beach ball tits. |
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romagia said: except all those martial arts shounen or are Kenshiro's breasts melon sized too? I'm not sure about Ken, but I'd argue that Raoh's breast is bigger than the average melon. |
Andan210 said: im aware but i thought it was in a seinen magazine but i guess i was wrongLucky Star is a shounen. Because shounen is not a fucking genre like many people think, is simply a demographic. Mod Edit: quote tower put under spoiler tag. |
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Red_Keys said: http://images.sgcafe.net/2013/01/one-piece-film-z-all-characters.png http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/15100000/Naruto-characters-naruto-15115348-1024-768.jpg http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130705193021/fairytail/images/d/d3/Fairy_Tail_Members.jpg http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/800x600/human-sex/95808/human-sex-oswald-royse-bleach-characters-captains-95808.jpg http://www.entravity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/shingeki-no-kyojin-wallpaper-levi-eren-mikasa.jpg There is not a single unfit male character. Except for like, the literal walking skeleton. This is why I dislike males in shounen-actions. They are so half-assed fan service. It's teasing done wrong in my opinion (I hate using my imagination). Atleast with women-characters they are obviously seducing you. On topic to the OP.. Eh. It's anime. Nothing really else to add to that. |
Red_Keys said: But pointing out single characters who are outliers and don't fit the trend (especially when they have fantastically deformed cartoon bodies) doesn't help much. I'm sure there are one or two female characters in One Piece who don't have beach ball tits. Nami used to have regular-sized tits. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J2DISfwrpHQ/UZMmD5wsq7I/AAAAAAAAAIQ/jrAql1K1LCQ/s640/one+piece+nami....jpg |
| Do you mean 'fit' or 'big husky'? Make up your mind. |
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mattbenz99 said: im aware but i thought it was in a seinen magazine but i guess i was wrong Ok, no problem then. And i think you were confusing Lucky Star with K-On!, wich is indeed a seinen. Mod Edit: quote tower fixed. |
ThangLongMar 25, 2014 11:31 AM
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SetsukoHara said: It's called character development.Red_Keys said: But pointing out single characters who are outliers and don't fit the trend (especially when they have fantastically deformed cartoon bodies) doesn't help much. I'm sure there are one or two female characters in One Piece who don't have beach ball tits. Nami used to have regular-sized tits. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J2DISfwrpHQ/UZMmD5wsq7I/AAAAAAAAAIQ/jrAql1K1LCQ/s640/one+piece+nami....jpg |
Pooh-pooh said: SetsukoHara said: It's called character development.Red_Keys said: But pointing out single characters who are outliers and don't fit the trend (especially when they have fantastically deformed cartoon bodies) doesn't help much. I'm sure there are one or two female characters in One Piece who don't have beach ball tits. Nami used to have regular-sized tits. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J2DISfwrpHQ/UZMmD5wsq7I/AAAAAAAAAIQ/jrAql1K1LCQ/s640/one+piece+nami....jpg I died. |
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Red_Keys said: Yeah because Light's a big muscly guy who beats up other big muscly guys. He's average size just like most shounen characters.Oh good lord. It's obvious that OP is talking specifically about action battle shounens. Obviously SoL shows won't apply. But using Death Note as a counter example is pretty silly. But pointing out single characters who are outliers and don't fit the trend (especially when they have fantastically deformed cartoon bodies) doesn't help much. I'm sure there are one or two female characters in One Piece who don't have beach ball tits. |
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