tsudecimo said:jal90 said:
but overall her emotional blocking through the series is very contextualized. Every scene with her having a good time with her friends in the first couple of episodes, showing herself as a girl without an actual major purpose in life (she has trivial concerns that every girl her age has), is related to her reactions when she's slowly sucked into having a major role in the story.
Okay but that was established in the first two episodes. The same thing kept happening for almost all of her screen time except the last episode IIRC.
On the other hand she was the only character in the series who actually had, as well as a close relation with the effectors of the plotline (the Witches and Kyuubey), a side story that dealt with the emotional effects on her personality. I have always defended Madoka's family, and specially her mother, as one of the essential plot points of the series, and the one that affected me the most, actually. Madoka in the context of the show is a teenage girl who is in a natural process of change. I have read quite often that this series works as a huge and fucked up metaphor for puberty and in that sense the progressive distancing between Madoka and her mother embody the emotional isolation that happens naturally through this change. Madoka stops relying on her mother and the mother in turn struggles to understand the decisions of her daughter.
That's a nice interpretation and all but the fact remains that it didn't have much emphasis. What effects on her personality? I don't think her initial 'personality' was affected aside from the final episode. She behaved like a normal girl on her age who is being sucked into something bigger and beyond her like you said above, but the events didn't bring forth any change in her character, they just made her behave in the same way for a long time.
What you seem to be describing here is that Madoka doesn't move the key events in the plot and I can't disagree. Because her role in the series was to suffer through a process, not to determine it. And in that sense, I think she is a far more complete character than Sayaka and Homura (the second in special), even if I admire the idealism and strong will of the first, or if I get moved with the tragic essence of the second.
You kept saying the word ''contextualized'' but I don't know why. I don't think it's a good thing. It's not a merit of her character that she is contextualized, her name is in the title, one would expect that story would surround her. But like I said even though the story was about her, she didn't have a presence.
Well I don't know where to take this little argument because what I remember from Madoka is she
1/Acting like a little girl getting caught up with something bigger than her, which was realistic and good for the first couple of episodes.
2/ Acting the same way through out the story and repeating the same dialogue and actions over, and over again in a vapid way.
3/ Only changing in the very last episode in a forced manner to solve the final conflict.
Her character was never fleshed out, her personality was as two dimensional as ever, maybe even one dimensional and lacking in proper characterization and the characterization she did have were trite, bland and un-inspired.
I can't say that I understand why you think she is a good character, as your points seems to be revolving about the fact that the story is indeed about her, like the title suggests.
Maybe deathrot (did I spell this right) will come and shed some light. Because I don't get how someone can consider Madoka something more than a plot device and a decoy protagonist.