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Dec 15, 2009 5:29 PM

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Jaw-droppingly gorgeous and well-sounding, even more so than the previous ones. They sure brought out the big guns with this finale. It took almost half the movie until the story got me hooked, though, but when it did, I enjoyed it very much.

Best installment in the series, no doubt about it. I'd love to watch this in HD someday.

8/10.

And:

7 > 5 > 1 = 2 > 3 > 4 > 6
 
Dec 16, 2009 3:54 AM

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Kira01 said:
Kokuto Mikiya seems somewhat stupid..



Agreed. As for me, I thought I would like it as much as the 5th movie but so much talking lol, I almost fell asleep during some parts of it till Shiki found him eating some dudes, the movie picked up for me after that for a little while but it felt dragging afterwords. And that big guy is still around too but this is the end of the movies? Isn't he a bad guy that should be dealt with? Anyways, this movie should have been like an hour long instead.
 
Dec 16, 2009 11:21 AM

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zeroj said:
Shiki was happy at the end. That was all I needed.


QFT.

9/10, period.
 
Dec 16, 2009 8:37 PM

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EtherSword said:
Kira01 said:
Kokuto Mikiya seems somewhat stupid..



Agreed. As for me, I thought I would like it as much as the 5th movie but so much talking lol, I almost fell asleep during some parts of it till Shiki found him eating some dudes, the movie picked up for me after that for a little while but it felt dragging afterwords. And that big guy is still around too but this is the end of the movies? Isn't he a bad guy that should be dealt with? Anyways, this movie should have been like an hour long instead.


agree with you guys. i love the 5th one, too. well both 5th and 7th are great. but we have to acknowledge that 7th is probably mainly categorized as drama while the 5th is perhaps mainly categorized as mystery. So it's depend on the audience. if, along the way of the story, they really wish for the happiness of mikiya and shiki more than some other aspect, then the 7th would be right for them. (just my guess)
 
Dec 16, 2009 10:25 PM

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This movie is indeed amazing and great, and it is enjoyable movie so far. The plot is more sense when it comes to interesting storyline. This movie has most touching, awesome ending that I cried so much. It has an interesting storyline, good direction, and stunning animation like as all previous movies have. Mikiya and Shiki’s love and relationship are so wonderful, and I loved how they care each other. These moments are very breathtaking and beautiful that I completely enjoyed it. SHIKI’s motives are finally explained, and it makes sense to me that he has to do that in the second movie where SHIKI meet Mikiya in the school. Overall, it was very great movie, and I fully enjoyed it. In addition, I am very satisfied with very length. Since the final movie was out this year, I can’t wait to re-watch these movies in correct order someday. I am looking forward to Kara no Kyoukai: Epilogue and novels as well. ufotable have a great job on this movie. Moe Shiki is moe. <3
 
Dec 16, 2009 11:45 PM

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In which order should I rewatch all episodes?
 
Dec 16, 2009 11:51 PM

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Psajdak said:
In which order should I rewatch all episodes?


2, 4, 3, 1, 5, 6, 7
 
Dec 17, 2009 12:02 AM

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bokami said:
do knk 7 is better than the rest of the movie or it is the same of the boring ones?

wat


there is no such thing as a boring knk movie.


true. and oh how i was thinking they would kiss at the end of the scene when they were looking into each other eyes. i was like "YES the moment has finally arrived after watching through 7 movies!" but then they hugged it out and i was like "WTF OMG"
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Dec 17, 2009 1:42 AM

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A nice finale to an amazing series of movies.

9/10
 
Dec 17, 2009 1:49 AM

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I thought it was interesting to explore some of the inner working and morals of murder. The explanation offered was certainly a unique one. More than the blind action and eyecandy present in some of the other movies, KnK 7 twisted the plot around to make Shiki the real antagonist. Lio was ultimately nothing more than a story advancement device, an weak villain set to psychologically test Shiki.

The level of development in this was phenomenal. Kara no Kyoukai amazed me yet again. 10/10 great finale. Can't wait for the epilogue (if there really is going to be one).

7 >= 5 > 3 > 4 = 2 > 1 >> 6
 
Dec 17, 2009 1:58 AM

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That was incredible, everything was just on a whole different level in the finale.

Still, I'm really confused as to wtf the point of 6 was, Azaka seems like such an unnecessary character.
 
Dec 17, 2009 3:17 AM

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gonna miss Ryougi... :(

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Dec 17, 2009 5:04 AM

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Still, I'm really confused as to wtf the point of 6 was, Azaka seems like such an unnecessary character.
Azaka fanservice. :P
 
Dec 17, 2009 6:49 AM

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Kira01 said:
Kokuto Mikiya seems somewhat stupid..


Do not underestimate the power of love :)
 
Dec 17, 2009 9:37 AM

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Truly AMAZING episode, there was so many moments where I was in literal and utter disbelief, it's nuts. I haven't felt that awe struck from watching anime in a long time.

I was thrown overboard when Shirazumi was dismembered. From that point on I had my jaw dropped the whole time. I can't believe how stupidly satisfying from that point on the episode was.

10/10.
 
Dec 17, 2009 2:28 PM

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i demand the rating system to implement a 11 out of 10 option for this movie.
 
Dec 18, 2009 8:29 AM

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A great comeback from the mediocre sixth one. They really surpassed my expectations.
-Fixing-
 
Dec 18, 2009 2:09 PM

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Shiki was happy at the end. That was all I needed.


Shiki and Mikiya. <3
 
Dec 19, 2009 5:07 AM

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The Lio guy was disguisting with his saliva problem.
As Shiki and Mikiya were down I prayed please don't let it end like this.

So I loved the scene afte the credits ; )

Had Shiki two thumbs in the end?
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Dec 19, 2009 1:49 PM

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There were 3 reasons for me to think that the 7th part will be so-so: 1) the 6th movie was pretty weak 2) I dunno why people worship 5th part, and laudatory reviews from other people about 7th part meant nothing for me 3) I've rated 8/10 only the 2nd part: it means that I consider (actually, considered before the last part) the whole series to be 7/10 overall, what is definitely not bad, but neither not so good as others think.

But, my friends, I can say that creators have done their work perfectly and exceeded all expectations!

1) Romantic line became stronger, it was good move.
2) Ryogi's charatcer had been revealed more, she's not so "cold" as before.
3) Animation is great as in previous movies.
4) There's no illogical, roundly childish or stupid moments -- the main excellence of this anime (comparing with other parts). Naivety is not considered ^^ .
5) The main idea. Though it's pretty simple, but the way it had been revealed is great -- very qualitive.

9/10
 
Dec 20, 2009 4:46 AM

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This was... fantastic. Definately the best anime movie I've ever seen.

10/10, and favorite.
 
Dec 20, 2009 7:23 PM

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Fantastic finale. A great, un-eqivocating plot and superb emotional closure.
 
Dec 21, 2009 3:55 AM

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Best Scene ^_^
 
Dec 22, 2009 7:59 PM

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I didn't find anything special about the movie.
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Dec 22, 2009 8:15 PM

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Kira01 said:
Kokuto Mikiya seems somewhat stupid..



Just about the part of the eye stabbing, I thought that was because Shirazumi wanted Shiki to kill him without killing Mikiya?
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Dec 23, 2009 9:16 PM

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Great movie on par with the 5th installment IMO. Hope it come's out in blueray some day so I can enjoy it in all it's glory.
 
Dec 24, 2009 11:43 AM

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am i the only one to find this episode quite lacking compared to the others? first off let me say i still really enjoyed this for what it was, especially all the romantic stuff, including that scene after the credits. i donno i just think the whole introducing drugs into the plot was kinda meh, and also kinda silly the way they executed it, i mean really, "its a super drug! LSD crossed with weed!" makes people go crazy or w/e. i guess thats just how the writer chose to take it though. also the fight scenes were severely weaker in style and just all out wow factor compared to even episode 6, and its not even comparable to the ridiculousness that is 5. overall i think i give it a 7/10, i'd give it 6.5 if i could, but only cause i was bored alot of the time and the above listed reasons
 
Dec 24, 2009 5:39 PM

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Great movie on par with the 5th installment IMO. Hope it come's out in blueray some day so I can enjoy it in all it's glory.


Yep definitely in par with the 5th. Great movie!
 
Dec 26, 2009 12:42 AM

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It was decent, but still nothing great. The movie itself could've easily shaved half an hour, maybe more, and the script was somewhat weak. That being said, it was still entertaining enough.

The series as a whole is fairly mediocre. Shiki's still as empty as ever, Mikiya's still a plank of wood and their romance is just plain dull.
 
Dec 26, 2009 6:03 AM

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wow... just... wow...

i was in disbelief nearing the end of that movie... then when he got back up i was like... -_-", talk about bs... then again if mikiya had died then i'd probably be raging right now =P.

i gave it a 10/10 because i have a suspension of disbelief, and we all have to agree that this movie and knk as a whole... is just... epic...

7>=5>3>1>=2=4>>>>>>>>>6

now to read the knk novels...

and wait for the blu ray release of course =), it truly deserves it...
 
Dec 27, 2009 3:21 AM

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So whatever happened to the supposed death by drug over-dose?

Could have sworn Kokuto was just an ordinary human..
 
Dec 27, 2009 6:16 AM

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Nayah said:
So whatever happened to the supposed death by drug over-dose?

Could have sworn Kokuto was just an ordinary human..


I was wondering about that too - could Mikiya have taken the drugs or did Shirazumi lied about the dose just to make him take the drugs ?
 
Dec 27, 2009 11:36 AM

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zerron said:
Nayah said:
So whatever happened to the supposed death by drug over-dose?

Could have sworn Kokuto was just an ordinary human..


I was wondering about that too - could Mikiya have taken the drugs or did Shirazumi lied about the dose just to make him take the drugs ?


He was on the verge of dying, it took him 3 months to recover from it. Most of this time was to recover the mental damage caused by the drug.
 
Dec 27, 2009 1:37 PM

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He was on the verge of dying, it took him 3 months to recover from it. Most of this time was to recover the mental damage caused by the drug.


I don't like that explanation - if Shirazumi said that the dose would definitely kill Mikiya, then something like *he barely survived after all* is super lame.
 
Dec 27, 2009 5:16 PM
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Shiraizumi was deranged. I doubt you could take every word he said at face value.
 
Dec 28, 2009 9:22 PM

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Am I the only who thinks that there was actually a kiss in this installment?

Right at the very end of the movie, after the part where it shows the date of when the movie took place, something more happened with the hug scene between Mikilya and Shiki. It only show from the shoulders down though.

You can seee Mikiya hold Shiki tighter and Shiki's upper half of her body moved in close.
 
Dec 29, 2009 4:34 AM

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The_Cloned_One said:
Am I the only who thinks that there was actually a kiss in this installment?


Nope, I took note of this too. So you're not alone.
 
Dec 29, 2009 5:04 AM

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Am I the only who thinks that there was actually a kiss in this installment?

Right at the very end of the movie, after the part where it shows the date of when the movie took place, something more happened with the hug scene between Mikilya and Shiki. It only show from the shoulders down though.

You can seee Mikiya hold Shiki tighter and Shiki's upper half of her body moved in close.


No, she was whispering into his ear...

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Dec 30, 2009 10:39 AM

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Phew, glad it was much better than the sixth installment.

The overall movie was a mind**** and awesome conclusion to the series.
 
Jan 2, 2010 12:37 AM

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Yawn...I think I need to rewatch this.
 
Jan 2, 2010 5:05 PM

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Great conclusion for Mikiya hold Shiki but the movie as a whole was a let down for me. I was expecting a little less....empty space and a little more...anything lol. There where several parts that where nothing but long pauses. I hate when animes do that just to fill up time. Was also expecting a little more closure to Touko. Touko sounded like she was packing up and getting ready to leave town but that is left up to are imagination :(.
 
Jan 2, 2010 5:19 PM

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Dunno if anyone mentioned it yet but at 1:44:05 Shiki has both thumbs when she's not supposed to.

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Jan 8, 2010 9:21 AM

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Great finale imo, and honestly it felt like the most simple and honest of all the KnK movies. Even a sweet happy ending, that was beautifully animated by the way.

I can definitely see this as being a series that I'll visit multiple times down the road.
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Jan 9, 2010 10:33 PM

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Holy shit, that was...really dark. Really enjoyable. Nice ending. I can't come up with a whole bunch of crap to write about it, but it was really good. Sorry for sounding so inarticulate. Anyway, as for score...I kind of want to give it a 10, but I can't for some reason.
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Jan 10, 2010 4:03 AM

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Hands down the best KnK movie ever.

Amazing.
 
Jan 16, 2010 5:11 AM

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I haven't played the Visual Novel so I was quite surprised at the happy ending considering Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night. Surprised and happy and satisfied.

Straight 10s from me. I watched all seven movies in one sitting and the experience is hands down one of the best 9-10 hour marathons I've ever done. I wish I could add all seven movies to my favorites list but unfortunately we're only allowed five and I would consider it unfair to list just one.
 
Jan 28, 2010 4:41 PM

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You don't want to kill a serial killer. What do you do???
1. You let him almost kill you and your friend.
or
2. You kick the shit out of him and hand him over to the police.

Hard choice...

PS: don't remind me the Legend of Galactic Heroes. I dropped it after the first episodes... who the heck came up with those idiotic strategies???
 
Jan 28, 2010 5:47 PM

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You don't want to kill a serial killer. What do you do???
1. You let him almost kill you and your friend.
or
2. You kick the shit out of him and hand him over to the police.

Hard choice...

PS: don't remind me the Legend of Galactic Heroes. I dropped it after the first episodes... who the heck came up with those idiotic strategies???
Nobody cares.
 
Jan 28, 2010 11:19 PM

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5layer said:
Nobody cares.

Obviously I care. The ending was too childish and stupid... not even Familiar of Zero II, which is more childish than this one and the main male character didn't want to kill other people, had this kind of stupid ending.
 
Jan 29, 2010 10:07 AM

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manos300 said:
2. You kick the shit out of him and hand him over to the police.


What if he eats himself out of jail?
 
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