DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| The last five minutes were just amazing... |
| killua has finally made his first move *^* |
| Haha. I love how Knuckle managed to punch Youpi and then run as hell. Alright time for Killua to do this now. Let us see his lightning abilities. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
jimmy2027 said: I am getting confused as to what Youpi's explosive growth is useful for. It seems like the best Youpi could do to counteract the effect of explosion is to revert back to his original body right before Knuckle gives him the blow. My conclusion is that the explosion move is pretty much useless except blowing up like a time bomb. It's far from useless, it's meant for use against skilled fighters such as Knuckle who would instantly recognise that Youpi is defenceless for a second just before exploding. It's very clever because he's an enhancer and it's not the sort of attack you would expect from an enhancer, they usually just make things go boom. It's essentially a feint that draws his opponents close to him. |
| Pretty sure it's because he's a magical beast. Enhancers can "enhance" their body TO AN EXTENT. Under no circumstances, could Gon grow 42696 arms, and 962233 eyes. Youpi has been shown to be a natural shapeshifter. |
 |
| Shapeshifting is not an enhancer ability at all, if it's nen, he can increase the extent to which he can transform, though. It's probably a mix of transmuting and conjuring and he already has massive aura. Unless it's not nen at all. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
judals said: Shapeshifting is not an enhancer ability at all, if it's nen, he can increase the extent to which he can transform, though. It's probably a mix of transmuting and conjuring and he already has massive aura. Unless it's not nen at all. Actually enhancers can enhance their body so much that they could actually transform(get bigger not become so much different as Youpi with 10 eyes or sth). That depends on the enhancer and how skilled I guess he is. Isn't Biske like that or am I mistaken? |
| "Laugh, and the world laughs with you; Weep, and you weep alone". Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
JamalKing said: jimmy2027 said: I am getting confused as to what Youpi's explosive growth is useful for. It seems like the best Youpi could do to counteract the effect of explosion is to revert back to his original body right before Knuckle gives him the blow. My conclusion is that the explosion move is pretty much useless except blowing up like a time bomb. It's far from useless, it's meant for use against skilled fighters such as Knuckle who would instantly recognise that Youpi is defenceless for a second just before exploding. It's very clever because he's an enhancer and it's not the sort of attack you would expect from an enhancer, they usually just make things go boom. It's essentially a feint that draws his opponents close to him. I believe jimmy2027 is referring to the fact that it was conveniently placed and popped up just to allow him to trick Knuckle; it is not useful by itself as a form of attack. He was transforming before, then all of a sudden he could explode and immediately learn how to control it. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| WOW This episode was awesome especially that slow down with Knuckle XD , he thought wait a minute how is this taking time almost as if i would die ? and I was like NOOO killua came <3 <3 and then 8 punches and went partying with himself as if he truly won XD Kilua time <3 <3 I want 119 now </3 |
soundscape said: judals said: Shapeshifting is not an enhancer ability at all, if it's nen, he can increase the extent to which he can transform, though. It's probably a mix of transmuting and conjuring and he already has massive aura. Unless it's not nen at all. Actually enhancers can enhance their body so much that they could actually transform(get bigger not become so much different as Youpi with 10 eyes or sth). That depends on the enhancer and how skilled I guess he is. Isn't Biske like that or am I mistaken? AFAIK Biscuit's transformation is a transmutation ability |
soundscape said: judals said: Shapeshifting is not an enhancer ability at all, if it's nen, he can increase the extent to which he can transform, though. It's probably a mix of transmuting and conjuring and he already has massive aura. Unless it's not nen at all. Actually enhancers can enhance their body so much that they could actually transform(get bigger not become so much different as Youpi with 10 eyes or sth). That depends on the enhancer and how skilled I guess he is. Isn't Biske like that or am I mistaken? It can change size, not shape, Youpi might be using some enhancement to enlarge himself when he smashed the ground or exploded, but other than that, no. Biscuit is a transmuter. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
| Being a transmuter doesn't exclude the fact that she can use enhancement abilities to 80% of their potential. I mean how does she change her size? It surely ain't a transmutation ability is it? |
| "Laugh, and the world laughs with you; Weep, and you weep alone". Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
| another great episode, , most of character in HxH is loveable.... |
soundscape said: Being a transmuter doesn't exclude the fact that she can use enhancement abilities to 80% of their potential. I mean how does she change her size? It surely ain't a transmutation ability is it? Most of her strength is natural, if you read/watch back you'll see that she doesn't often use nen when using hand to hand combat. I can't remember who she was fighting but she punched somebody and said that if she put nen behind the punch she would've killed them. |
JamalKing said: soundscape said: Being a transmuter doesn't exclude the fact that she can use enhancement abilities to 80% of their potential. I mean how does she change her size? It surely ain't a transmutation ability is it? Most of her strength is natural, if you read/watch back you'll see that she doesn't often use nen when using hand to hand combat. I can't remember who she was fighting but she punched somebody and said that if she put nen behind the punch she would've killed them. That dude in Greed Island? Btw, I am fine with the characters in the Invasion but I wish Biscuit was here. Morel maybe could use the help and it was weird to me that she just upped and left. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
JamalKing said: soundscape said: Being a transmuter doesn't exclude the fact that she can use enhancement abilities to 80% of their potential. I mean how does she change her size? It surely ain't a transmutation ability is it? Most of her strength is natural, if you read/watch back you'll see that she doesn't often use nen when using hand to hand combat. I can't remember who she was fighting but she punched somebody and said that if she put nen behind the punch she would've killed them. Her strength being natural has nothing to do with her transformation though. I am talking about how can she change her physical body like that. Which can be accomplished only by enhancers. And as she can use enhancer abilities till 80% of their potential it makes sense. That's all. |
| "Laugh, and the world laughs with you; Weep, and you weep alone". Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
| Holy fucking shit. I thought Knuckle would have died, luckily he didn't. Anyway, great episode. Much better than the previous one. Ps: I'm still waiting for Knov to appear or I will be disappointed. |
AkanezoraFeb 28, 2014 3:51 PM
 |
kaikyaku said: soundscape said: JamalKing said: soundscape said: Being a transmuter doesn't exclude the fact that she can use enhancement abilities to 80% of their potential. I mean how does she change her size? It surely ain't a transmutation ability is it? Most of her strength is natural, if you read/watch back you'll see that she doesn't often use nen when using hand to hand combat. I can't remember who she was fighting but she punched somebody and said that if she put nen behind the punch she would've killed them. Her strength being natural has nothing to do with her transformation though. I am talking about how can she change her physical body like that. Which can be accomplished only by enhancers. And as she can use enhancer abilities till 80% of their potential it makes sense. That's all. The way I understood it, the 'macho' form is her true, original form. She doesn't use enhancer abilities to become macho, it's the other way around. She doesn't like that form, so she used her transformation abilities to become smaller, prettier, etc ... She also like to use that weak appearance to her advantage, she is quite devious in that way ^^ Yeah, I am very sure that the huge form is her real self. But soundscape doesn't necessarily say that isn't her real form right? |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Nope_ said: soundscape said: Her hiding her original size is transmutation, she does not transform into a giant muscular woman her original size is the big muscular woman. You can't enhance yourself into a small body.Being a transmuter doesn't exclude the fact that she can use enhancement abilities to 80% of their potential. I mean how does she change her size? It surely ain't a transmutation ability is it? Enhance as in she changes into a more attractive body, perhaps? |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Hmm, I had a whole different take on the Bisky transformation. Transmuters change their aura not their bodies, look at Killua, Hisoka, Feitan ect. The only class that we have seen transform is the manipulators class, like how Illumi transformed in Hisoka back in YN. Bisky can only master manipulation at 40%, thats why I think that she probably set a condition like 'I can only use half of my strength in this form'. That would explain why her little girl punch is much weaker then her Macho punch. Thats just me speculating but to me it makes sense. |
| ''We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?'' - Uchiha Itachi |
SaSa-Zoldyck said: Hmm, I had a whole different take on the Bisky transformation. Transmuters change their aura not their bodies, look at Killua, Hisoka, Feitan ect. The only class that we have seen transform is the manipulators class, like how Illumi transformed in Hisoka back in YN. Bisky can only master manipulation at 40%, thats why I think that she probably set a condition like 'I can only use half of my strength in this form'. That would explain why her little girl punch is much weaker then her Macho punch. Thats just me speculating but to me it makes sense. Yea this is it at last. This is the best explanation probably. Yea I forgot that her macho form is her true form. But that still wouldn't explain how with transmutation she changed her appearance. But manipulation makes a lot more sense.... |
| "Laugh, and the world laughs with you; Weep, and you weep alone". Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
| OMGGGGG KILLUA IS THE MOST PERFECT CREATURE EVER HES SUCH A BADASS OMGGGG THAT WAS PERF |
| The first half was damn boring , but the second half made this episode a 5/5 . I really though Knuckle was going to die there , ;_; , but no !! Killua saved him . Such a badass small little match of Knuckle and Youpi . Next week Killua v Youpi !! This anime gets better and better each week . |
_DoctorWho_ said: OMGGGGG KILLUA IS THE MOST PERFECT CREATURE EVER HES SUCH A BADASS OMGGGG THAT WAS PERF And with the last 10 seconds, all the directors efforts for animating the Knuckle scene (and the rest of the episode) were for naught. Killua gets a lot of attention, not that I mind. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
| shoot just got deflowered |
| My Guitar Covers: Playlist I CAN ALWAYS SHOW MY EVERYTHING TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUU |
| Last few minutes were good but Ikalgo's part dragged this episode down. I was kind of hoping Knuckle would die to be honest. It's not that I don't like him but I could just feel someone coming to his rescue at the last second. Would've caught me off-guard if they didn't. Either way, the next episode looks like a good one. |
| damn I was waiting for Killua and then boom!... he came just in time... it was perfect! epic battle next ep... hopefully |
 |
| What does one piece have to do with this? OP is all about adventure and some action once in a while, if you were expecting something else you're stupid. Most people apparently haven't read a book, go educate yourselves. |
 |
| Woooooooooooow!! That was super close, Killua is so awesome xD |
 |
| Will someone else almost die too? o_o |
Frezlaj said: Will someone else almost die too? o_o Do you really want the answer to that or is it rhetorical? |
 |
tsudecimo said: Frezlaj said: Will someone else almost die too? o_o Do you really want the answer to that or is it rhetorical? Probably rhetorical. But, even if it isn't I would really appreciate it if you didn't answer that kind of question here. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| That's why I didn't. |
|
tsudecimo said: That's why I didn't. No, I mean if he does end up saying he wants to know. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
judals said: _DoctorWho_ said: OMGGGGG KILLUA IS THE MOST PERFECT CREATURE EVER HES SUCH A BADASS OMGGGG THAT WAS PERF And with the last 10 seconds, all the directors efforts for animating the Knuckle scene (and the rest of the episode) were for naught. Killua gets a lot of attention, not that I mind. You could say Killua stole Knuckle's thunder... :P But he did just save his hide. Loved seeing Knuckle run away laughing like an idiot. |
| Damn, this arc keeps getting more & more intense! Knuckle finally got to hit Youpi! I actually thought he was going to die for sure! Killua saving the day was so badass. |
 |
| Way to go Knuckle. I thought he was a goner for a moment. |
 |
judals said: Speaking of Yupi, is his shapeshifting part of his magical beast side or a nen ability? Because if it's the former then most of this is kind of pointless. He'd be defenseless sure, but his offense would be the same. And they can barely touch him. Even if it was his beast side, they could Hatsu him to death once his nen is sealed. I somehow doubt they would, but hey, it's an option. That last part with Knuckle was cool. At first his monologue about Shoot was funny, which shifted to an "Oh crap!" moment when he realized time seemed slow because he was about to die, which then shifted to relief and more humor as he ran away like a kid carrying a boatload of candy. I was wondering if they'd kill him off. I wasn't terribly worried, but I wasn't certain they'd save him either, so I guess it was pretty well-executed. Killua seems pretty ticked off. Good episode. |
| Looking back on this episode and the one before it, the theme of anger is very prominent. It’s not a coincidence that Togashi paired together two fighters, Knuckle and Youpi, who are prone to losing their temper. Youpi rages in episode 117 out of frustration, and that is what allows him to discover his new ability. Likewise, Knuckle only returned to fight Youpi out of anger and indignation for Shoot. In this episode, though, appropriately titled “A False Rage,” Youpi uses this seeming flaw of his to develop a strategy that almost succeeds in killing Knuckle. He goads himself into becoming angry by shouting, yelling, and thinking thoughts that inspire rage. This is totally possible in real life; people often work themselves into very bad moods on their own, due to their own thoughts. In this case, though, Youpi is aware of what he’s doing. He appears to be angry, but it belies a calm and collected interior. Knuckle, on the other hand, seemed calm for the majority of the episode, before he worked himself into a burning rage in his extensive monologue before his near death, thus erasing any sort of logic or consideration in his own mind that he was falling for a trap. Youpi’s and Knuckle’s anger parallel each other, but in this case they are also contrasted. Youpi evolved enough to understand how to use this character vice to his advantage, while Knuckle allowed him to nearly doom him, and it would have, had Killua not jumped in to the rescue. In the end, the ability to control your anger became crucial to the conclusion of the battle, and Youpi won out in the end in that regard. Again, though, Youpi’s opponent is someone who is once again given to anger, at least at this particular moment. Killua is far from happy, coming off of Gon and Pitou’s encounter tired, hurt, and upset. Youpi is once again faced with an angry opponent. This episode was a lot of fun to rewatch. I really need to just marathon the whole Invasion again, it's even better when there's not a week gap between each episode to disrupt the viewing experience. |
| My anime blog Latest Post: The Zero Requiem (Analysis of the Ending of Code Geass) |
More topics from this board
» Hunter x Hunter (2011) came out 10 years after the original series. What are the chances we get a remake this year? 2011 version ended in Sep 2014animeboilolz - Today |
30 |
by Armaniooo
»»
3 hours ago |
|
» Is Hisoka a fraud?Leon888 - Nov 22, 2023 |
43 |
by Angra_Shadow
»»
Today, 5:18 AM |
|
Poll: » Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 135 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Jun 24, 2014 |
876 |
by red-tomato
»»
Apr 21, 3:22 AM |
|
Poll: » Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 148 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Haine - Sep 23, 2014 |
915 |
by Thesk8er2000
»»
Apr 19, 3:55 PM |
|
Poll: » Who is your Favourite character?PushedCaraway - Mar 29 |
44 |
by PushedCaraway
»»
Apr 19, 12:57 PM |