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Feb 25, 2014 9:04 AM
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Beach episode? LOL. That's a big change of atmosphere compared to episode 7.

This episode's atmosphere felt almost silly tbh. Yeah, I couldn't take some parts of the episode seriously at all. Lol, I thought Birthday was going to do something with that taser or his electricity on the water when the others were swimming. Anyways, felt more like a competitive/relaxing episode.

Nice was awesome though with his nice moves.

Ah what an ending. Moral...and his twisted plans again.
Feb 25, 2014 9:06 AM
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The enemy just changed to police and answered the phone, as well as getting into police station.

To Okinawa, and swimsuit ep. Okinawa's yakuza don't like them playing on their land. The minimum holder in Okinawa's dream is so funny. lol @ how diversity is that information center guy. lol @ other guys there, too, in yakuza side. No.1 vs. No.2 (the relations is like the brothers?).

Thought so! That guy in coma is voiced by Kenji Nojima!! Wait, who was the character that voiced by Megumi Ogata??
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Feb 25, 2014 11:32 AM
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im totally pissed do the have too just a wanna be funny ep after what just happened

and what I hate the most moral plays art hope nice gets it when they meet it isn't the real one

but this ep is just a joke and a bad one
Feb 25, 2014 12:00 PM
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Okay first off I want to say that I do love this show but I hated this episode.
I mean come on SERIOUSLY! A beach episode where its all feel good atmosphere?! Especially after what happen to Art. We get a small segment of Art in the beginning and then of Moral pretending to be Art at the end. Really?? I feel like it went from serious (last episode) to downright silly. To big of a change in the atmosphere.
I do get that sometimes in a show you need funny comical episodes to help lighten the mood but this one was totally timed wrong. It might have been a good episode after the group finds out the truth concerning Art because that be a couple episodes of some serious tension and drama.
I guess with saying this I have to admit that I was holding out hope for Art’s minimum to activate and somehow he lives. Honestly I still want to hold out hope. There’s something about moral whispering in Arts ear before killing him like he had some big secret (and probably does). I mean Arts expression didn’t even change. There was no surprise look or anything. So I guess I still want to hold out hope… but is there really any grounds for it to be held?
This episode I was so hoping to get some type of concrete feeling and/or closure when it came to Art but instead it’s a silly lighten the mood type of episode. Maybe I missed something and I do admit I will probably watch the episode to see if I missed anything. I doubt it though. Well until next week…
Btw I would like to read predictions of next episode, those are always fun ( imo) Thanks for reading.
Feb 25, 2014 12:02 PM
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Ugh, that was bad. A beach episode? We already had a spa episode of some sort... Right after that cliffhanger too, ffs.
Feb 25, 2014 12:12 PM
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Ugh, that was bad. A beach episode? We already had a spa episode of some sort... Right after that cliffhanger too, ffs.


that's right a beach and a hot spring ep in a just 12 ep series its too much and a total ruined the mood I was expecting that cause of the last ep preview for that but still hoped it would at least have a lil serious stuff
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Feb 25, 2014 12:13 PM
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I hope they will explain who the woman is next to moral and what they (or she since Moral said take care of it) to do to Art's body. They left so many unanswered questions in this episode and turned it into a comical beach episode. I am upset.

I wonder if the old cop was alive the whole time? The scene of leaving early at the police station confused me. The old man and Art were seen together. How???? I had always thought the old man and Moral were one and the same person, then I saw the old cop with Moral (as Art).
Someone explain, or give me some kind of theory

My head is starting to hurt at all this maybes and possibilities.

P.S. I wonder how Art's brother died, but I am a little bit more interested in what his brother's name was. Anyone who knows please tell.
Feb 25, 2014 12:22 PM
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Beach episode..
Rei in a swimsuit <3
LOL all the guys from Hamatora joining in on the triathalon
Birthday and Three getting disqualified almost straight away xD
Honey's Mighty breaking down, allowing for a showdown between Murasaki and Nice.
Good fight.. ridiculous part was that it was done with bitter melons. Nice came out the winner.

Moral, as expected, is impersonating Art after killing him off. Seen conversing with Nice and the old man at the police station.(Who was the girl in the cemetery with Moral?)

Regardless of all that, I expected a lot more from this episode after Art's death. Disappointing that.
Feb 25, 2014 12:43 PM
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I'm surprised art really died... not that it saddens me much...
Feb 25, 2014 12:52 PM

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you guys are taking this episode the wrong way. IMO this episode was really meaningful in that it showed how people who are typically losing felt. I thought the the episode was really good
Feb 25, 2014 2:21 PM

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I hate the fact they went all cheery after what happened in episode 7 ,but they had too sadly because Moral as Art answered the phone, I am so missed of right now!!!
What did they do to his body now?!
I am more worried for Art then the episode.
Feb 25, 2014 2:32 PM

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I liked this episode cant wait what will happen later and episode 9 "The little beuty and the beast" this will be intresting....
Feb 25, 2014 2:49 PM

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Huh? Moral's pistol was gold/yellow last episode, but now it's black???

Rei's got a nice bod :P

Those muscles XD must have taken awhile to make them :P

This episode is so random.

A heart to heart with a sleeping person? XD

Lol is it just me or do Honey's boobs look smaller in her bikini then in her normal outfit? :P

Those random disqualifications.

"Not against sea water. Please repair" LOL

So who is Moral's assistant and does she have the same Minimum as him?

A Honey and Three centered episode next time.
Feb 25, 2014 2:51 PM

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Mhm... art didn't contribute much to the series at all...
Oh well...
His death was easily accepted b/c of it xD

Feb 25, 2014 3:53 PM
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Ticked off over this episode, not because it's not nice (i actually liked it), but showing a jolly epsiode like nothing ever figgin happened.
How can they take it so likely? LIKE HOW
Well, I guess it was too balance up for what happened before. I was quite hoping they'd show a sign of the real Art in this episode, but unfortunately, I hate saying this but Art might actually be dead.
The intro gave me hope. But a part of me is still not accepting his death (He was my fave character after all) >,<
Still hoping - even though it's near impossible now.
Moral's now disguising as Art,UGH what a freak. If I were to face Moral I would avenge him T.T' *phew
This episode was pretty fun. Especially that competition. Birthday and his nosebleed XD Perv
Art's just left out from this whole picture.
I just wanted to fall off a cliff when Nice said that he's gonna buy a souvenir for Art. When he's not aware of the fact that he's not alive any more. *wipes tears .
Wonder what Nice's gonna do when he finds out. Wish he beats the crap outta that im-Moral guy cause of his immoral ways T.T
They're progressing alight. I wonder how this series will end? Lets not think about it. Makes me worry even more. *sobs
Feb 25, 2014 4:41 PM

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Rei looked dayum sexy in that outfit O.O

This episode really showed how the strong negatively effect the weak and now that I think about it I'd probably drink ideal too. I seriously dislike this world called reality.
Feb 25, 2014 5:27 PM

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Random beach episode after what happened in the last ep, I don't really mind though since there were a lot of funny/silly moments~ XD

Looks like Moral ain't the only one who can changed appearance~

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Feb 25, 2014 5:27 PM
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Where is the story in this episode?
Feb 25, 2014 5:39 PM

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C'mon! Art is dead! Can someone discover and revenge his death soon!!???

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Rei looked dayum sexy in that outfit O.O

This episode really showed how the strong negatively effect the weak and now that I think about it I'd probably drink ideal too. I seriously dislike this world called reality.

Well, I think there are a lot of people who would like to drink ideal too, it's easier to live in a dream than in reality
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Feb 25, 2014 5:48 PM
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So basically Art died and they moved on to a school field trip next episode. Well then.
Feb 25, 2014 5:58 PM
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Gah awful episode.
Needed more Art situation but I guess he really did die.
The only thing i'm looking forward to is Nice's reaction when he does find out because everything else is just stupid.
Feb 25, 2014 6:03 PM

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I guess nobody visited the graveyard and nobody heard gunshots and found it suspicious?

If this episode was before Art's death, it would have been okay.
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Feb 25, 2014 6:03 PM

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Well that felt completely out of place.
Feb 25, 2014 6:11 PM

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I understand that the mood of this episode upset a lot of people, but the truth is, no one actually /knows/ that Art is dead. I'm not sure how the other characters are supposed to react to something they don't know about?

Moral disguised himself as Art, and talked to Nice on the phone. So while the viewer knows that Art is dead, even Nice assumes Art is still alive- but just acting strange.

Anyway, I liked how they showed us how Murasaki felt about always being one step behind. We kind of see this in the manga as well, so that's what I enjoyed most about this episode.

I'm still hoping Art makes a comeback somehow... I feel like his character had more potential, and to just kill him off like that really sucks.
Feb 25, 2014 6:12 PM
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4/5. I enjoyed myself.

However.... this is a filler within an episode, what the freak is going on there?

Art being dead... I didn't even get to grieve him properly... but perhaps that is for the best. Grief is so icky and who wants to feel that, if you don't have to?

Still, it will be a real downer when they find out about his death....
Feb 25, 2014 6:14 PM
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I'm still hoping Art makes a comeback somehow... I feel like his character had more potential, and to just kill him off like that really sucks.


I haven't read the manga or anything, so this is just a random thing I am saying:

Wouldn't it be really cool if Art really did have a Minimum all this time, and it somehow allowed him to not really be dead?

I dunno, like, having skin that eats bullets if it is wet, or something.
Feb 25, 2014 6:16 PM

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Hmm could Morel be trying to create an ultimate minimum power from other Minimum Holders??? He did say he wanted to be equal to Nice
Feb 25, 2014 6:26 PM

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Animation was crap!! (only the close/face/body animation was okay), hate when after the sad thing they do the filler -.-
After last week's episode, I was so hyped to see more, like some mystery and not this kind of happy boobs fanservice boobs episode.
huge disappointment!

Wow! A nice chara dies!
Staff: Let's drop that shit! Time for some beach fanservice! What happened to Art? Meh, you'll maaaaybe see it in the last episode. We can spare few minutes. Until then - ENJOY THE FILLERS~

-.-

What I'm guessing is that that long haired creep takes Art and gives him the Minimum. If he killed him for real, that's some more mystery for this anime.
But watching/hearing the preview, that sh!t's not gonna come soon. Next one is probably gonna be similar to this one and I'll just sigh, rewinding to see Murasaki's chest once more. kufufu

I hate filler episodes...

Feb 25, 2014 6:26 PM
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Art was never able to manifest his minimum so it is possible that his minimum makes him immortal or something...GODDAMMIT ART DON'T BE DEAD
Feb 25, 2014 6:38 PM
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lol. I this is why I don't usually watch episodic shows, the only reason I kept watching was because the minimum powers were pretty cool. The cliffhanger into random beach was too much. I don't know if i have the willpower to watch anymore.
Feb 25, 2014 6:43 PM

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The mood shift in this episode was really jarring. To be fair, no one really knew what happened to Art and his body was "taken care of". It wasn't really all that bad but the point could have gotten across without a random trip to the beach or Honey fanservice.
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nawtsu said:

I'm still hoping Art makes a comeback somehow... I feel like his character had more potential, and to just kill him off like that really sucks.


I haven't read the manga or anything, so this is just a random thing I am saying:

Wouldn't it be really cool if Art really did have a Minimum all this time, and it somehow allowed him to not really be dead?

I dunno, like, having skin that eats bullets if it is wet, or something.


The manga only has three chapters translated in English right now, and it started off by telling how Murasaki and Nice met! So I don't know anything about what happens to Art either lol

It would be cool if Art's minimum was somehow awakened, or like some other people have suggested, what if Moral takes Art's body and gives him a minimum?!

I just don't want him to be dead for good ;^;
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nice-kun is like invincible or something wow
wonder how long it'll take him to realize art is dead ;_;
Feb 25, 2014 6:54 PM

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okay first his gun changes color then the cell phne doesn't lies next to art on the grass but on the stret on what the heck is this psycho does to art now ??

Sorry but this ep just cant read the mood and I was and still am damn pissed about this --- do they really have to make a wanna be funny ep after arts death I couldn't enjoy it one bit

and hope that the find out soon what happened // and Moral playing with arts body is disguists me

totally went down for me 1/5
and still have a feeling Hamatora doesn't knows what it wants to be finally getting all watchers hocked up after a ep and making the worszt after ep ever
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nawtsu said:
D5 said:
nawtsu said:

I'm still hoping Art makes a comeback somehow... I feel like his character had more potential, and to just kill him off like that really sucks.


I haven't read the manga or anything, so this is just a random thing I am saying:

Wouldn't it be really cool if Art really did have a Minimum all this time, and it somehow allowed him to not really be dead?

I dunno, like, having skin that eats bullets if it is wet, or something.


The manga only has three chapters translated in English right now, and it started off by telling how Murasaki and Nice met! So I don't know anything about what happens to Art either lol

It would be cool it Art's minimum was somehow awakened, or like some other people have suggested, what if Moral takes Art's body and gives him a minimum?!

I just don't want him to be dead for good ;^;



don't get me wrong with what I say now -- I would be more then happy to see Art back alive and kicking bad guys asses, but if he gets a minimum after he said he doesn't wants one , wouldn't that just destroy his way of living/being

+ also the fact that a normal human can also without powers be brought on the same level as the power holders what makes/made him unique
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Azurite_ said:
nawtsu said:
D5 said:
nawtsu said:

I'm still hoping Art makes a comeback somehow... I feel like his character had more potential, and to just kill him off like that really sucks.


I haven't read the manga or anything, so this is just a random thing I am saying:

Wouldn't it be really cool if Art really did have a Minimum all this time, and it somehow allowed him to not really be dead?

I dunno, like, having skin that eats bullets if it is wet, or something.


The manga only has three chapters translated in English right now, and it started off by telling how Murasaki and Nice met! So I don't know anything about what happens to Art either lol

It would be cool if Art's minimum was somehow awakened, or like some other people have suggested, what if Moral takes Art's body and gives him a minimum?!

I just don't want him to be dead for good ;^;



don't get me wrong with what I say now -- I would be more then happy to see Art back alive and kicking bad guys asses, but if he gets a minimum after he said he doesn't wants one , wouldn't that just destroy his way of living/being

+ also the fact that a normal human can also without powers be brought on the same level as the power holders what makes/made him unique


Oh no I completely agree. Even at the very end, when Art had the chance to survive- be it through obtaining a minimum- he still declined the opportunity. So if he did somehow gain one, that just go against everything he was portrayed as!

I was just thinking of ways to explain how Art could come back, because I really don't want him to be dead for good >.<
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A beach episode.

Lol at how Honey distracted the competitors.
Feb 25, 2014 7:56 PM

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A lot of people are considering this episode filler but I don't see it like that. The show up has been about catching up to nice and how the weak aren't really able to catch up and that was heavily highlighted in this episode. There were also more moral plot elements that gave you more questions that answers.

And no one knows art is dead, so of course the mood hasn't changed yet. We have 4 more episodes and I know from episode 10 will be when everything comes out. There are hints everywhere and you guys should pay a bit more attention to them than just seeing the lack of "moral progression" as filler.
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I wonder if the old cop was alive the whole time? The scene of leaving early at the police station confused me. The old man and Art were seen together. How???? I had always thought the old man and Moral were one and the same person, then I saw the old cop with Moral (as Art).
Someone explain, or give me some kind of theory


They never did show Moral actually killing or even approaching 'the old man'. As of now, we don't know the conditions that Moral needs to use his minimum to disguise as someone. Since we watchers were shown that he killed the doctor and Art before disguising as them, one would easily assume that death is needed. So unless, he has a second minimum or if he had consumed the minimum, which enables duplication, there's still gaps in his abilities that we do not know to assume that the old man was Moral or not.

But in my opinion, as the story was progressing, I was always under the impression that Moral only disguised himself as the old man went he really needed to infiltrate the police facilities. But as to why he can disguise as him, I'm thinking of two possibilities:
1) The old man never died. Moral doesn't need to kill that person to disguise. He just used it to his convenience. Need more info of his abilities to progress for this theory.
2) The old man was killed before he entered the police force by Moral, then Moral transplanted a brain (minimum or not, debatable) as seen with the possibilities of his past crimes and the surgery scene, to keep the old man alive as his spy. Or he doesnt even need to be a spy; Moral just needed someone he could disguise to be in the police force.


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Feb 25, 2014 8:50 PM

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this show is so anticlimactic I'm unable to take it seriously...

I'm...disappointed with the series so far, that's for sure

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oh I just loved this episode I really enjoyed myself and come on people the characters don't know Art died so they can't react sad as stated by another user here, but yeah I kind of don't want to believe that Art died because it's not fair damn it
Feb 25, 2014 11:30 PM

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I knew it. Moral copied Art.

For some reason, this episode was ridiculous.
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Feb 25, 2014 11:54 PM

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shit episode but maybe Moral is going to use Art's body for his next sick experiment? :D

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I miss Art so much :( .Moral disguising as him makes me hate him even more then i did before.

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Feb 26, 2014 12:59 AM

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Was expecting something grand, but looks like they decided to go with comical relief. Little bit disappointed, but the episode in itself wasn't that bad. Somewhere around 3!
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oh I just loved this episode I really enjoyed myself and come on people the characters don't know Art died so they can't react sad as stated by another user here, but yeah I kind of don't want to believe that Art died because it's not fair damn it


I totally understand that we shouldn't expect the characters to know anything since they weren't there but looking at this from the viewer's side I personally would have liked the anime to go a bit more serious and tense from here. I loved the ending of the last episode - it was brilliant in so many ways!!! I can even say it was the best part of the whole series so far! Yet, that new episode somehow killed it for me.....it was way too random after the huge bomb they dropped a.k.a. Art's murder!!! Of course, we got to know Murasaki's feelings better but that was pretty much all there was to it! Ah, Moral's closing scene, too! >.> It feels like they just can't get the mixture of the different themes right! My opinion!

But I suppose there are two ways to continue the series - the one they chose being the funny/silly and relaxed way, where the characters stay unaware of Art's death and some hilarious nearly absurd things happen or the other way where they stick to the heart-breaking and nerve-wracking atmosphere they created at the end of ep 7 and level the anime up into a more consistent series where they don't make you jump from a happy mood into a devastating one and then rush you back into the funny, "nothing happened" mood!
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Wow this show really can't do comedy. Terrible... Stick to drama because when it tries to be funny it falls flat on its face.
Feb 26, 2014 6:55 AM

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Why am I still watching this trash?
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Well it was a break from the shock of last episode. Many things were silly but still fun enough, I mean those delinquents bringing in the whole crew was hilarious, the competition itself was hilarious too.

Nice curb stomping Murasaki even in normal combat was a bit too much imo.

All in all not a bad episode and somehow they hint that Morel will be found out, well nice seeing he has a sidekick and preparing for some major revolt of sorts.

Rei and Honey were sexy!!!
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