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08-16-09, 8:13 PM

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Although I agree co-ed schools teach communication and skills with other opposite gender, I think the choice is good. Some people might not be comfortable in the co-ed environment while in school, or focus better and feel they achieve more when they're surrounded by peers they can relate more to. I for one have always wanted to go to an all girl's school. One with uniforms, but that's a completely separate topic. It's not that I don't like boys, I really, really do, and that's the problem. I learned nothing in science because I was turned around talking to Conor in the back row all semester -_-

Though I would prefer a single sex school I think it's good that there's the choice. There are private schools that are co-ed, though I'm not sure of single sex public schools. So essentially, no, I don't think single sex schools should be shut down.

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08-16-09, 8:51 PM

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If it's a private school, they have the right to be only for one gender. I personally don't think it makes sense for a school to be single gender, but...
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08-16-09, 9:44 PM

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Yes, i think they are for the best. I always wanted to go in Girl's school.. but my parents though it is a bad idea :(
 
08-16-09, 10:03 PM

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why abolish them? Where would Ouran highschool and MariaXXXholic be without single sex schools???
 
08-16-09, 10:57 PM

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single-sex schools are fine
if somebody like it, why not?
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08-16-09, 11:03 PM

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What will happen to fine yaoi(k,and yuri) without single-sex schools?


 
08-16-09, 11:50 PM

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xanusuri said:
I just had a shower and thought about rewriting what I wrote...

Here it is anyways. I think single sex schools are stupid, and just a way for over protective parents to waste their money. Kids need to learn to interact with the opposite sex to survive in life.

I don't see a reason why these schools should be around, and I couldn't give a shit if they were closed or not.


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My opinion

I'm against single-sex schools... and unless someone proves to me why segragating people based on their gender is a good thing I will keep being against them. Educational opportunities should be given equaly to people of both genders anyway and single-sex schools only help to increase gender prejudices IMO by alienating children from children of the opposite sex in an enviroment not at all reminiscent to the real society


These two said what i had in mind!
 
08-17-09, 12:46 AM

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I go to a girls school and I have to say it is probably a better academic environment. Although that depends on the person I guess. But socially they're not so great. I'm pretty sure it's had some sort of negative effect on me.
I don't know if anything is proven about whether single-sex schools are truely a better environment, academically speaking. but it most likely makes a difference, and if parents want to send their kids there because of that then it's fine. they may not be fantastic but no need to abolish them.

or have I been brainwashed? :P
 
08-17-09, 1:04 AM

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nd if parents want to send their kids there because of that then it's fine. they may not be fantastic but no need to abolish them.

or have I been brainwashed? :P

You mean those overly protective, prudes that are terrorized by the thought that their precious child will *gasp* talk... to somebody of the opposite gender... and then fall in love and perhaps even k-k-k-k-kiss someone and stuff... oh boy the terror...

You obviously have been... but still I'm happy you finally did me the honour of participating in one of my polls. :P
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08-17-09, 2:06 AM

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Alas86 said:
sootsprite said:
nd if parents want to send their kids there because of that then it's fine. they may not be fantastic but no need to abolish them.

or have I been brainwashed? :P

You mean those overly protective, prudes that are terrorized by the thought that their precious child will *gasp* talk... to somebody of the opposite gender... and then fall in love and perhaps even k-k-k-k-kiss someone and stuff... oh boy the terror...

You obviously have been... but still I'm happy you finally did me the honour of participating in one of my polls. :P


Yes. Them. It is the parents choice where to send their kid. And I don't think that's the reason parents send their kids to single-sex schools. At least it wasn't my parents' motive.
 
08-17-09, 2:10 AM
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Alas86 said:
sootsprite said:
nd if parents want to send their kids there because of that then it's fine. they may not be fantastic but no need to abolish them.

or have I been brainwashed? :P
You mean those overly protective, prudes that are terrorized by the thought that their precious child will *gasp* talk... to somebody of the opposite gender... and then fall in love and perhaps even k-k-k-k-kiss someone and stuff... oh boy the terror...

You obviously have been... but still I'm happy you finally did me the honour of participating in one of my polls. :P
What. IDK how sarcastic you're being here, but if a parent was that worried they would home school their kids.

Plus:
- There's no rule that says students only date students from their school. Plenty of towns have multiple schools all less than a few minutes from each other.
- If you go to a co-ed school your parents can still be overprotective about dating. Sure you can see your boyfriend/girlfriend at school if it was co-ed but school isn't suppose to be some match-making place. You're suppose to study and learn there.
- Some people really do learn better when they aren't around the opposite gender. This doesn't prepare them for the real world - except that:
1) The real world is not like high school anyway.
2) Hormones make things worse for young adults; they'll get over that eventually.
3) Learning to have a social life outside of school is a good thing. Do you plan on hanging out with your co-workers all the time when you get older?
 
08-17-09, 2:14 AM

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What. IDK how sarcastic you're being here, but if a parent was that worried they would home school their kids.
I was totally and completely sarcastic obviously... but home schooling isn't as convenient as sending their kids off... and I suspect not as cheap either... though calling some private schools cheap with the prices they demand takes a lot of nerve... ;)
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08-17-09, 2:50 AM
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Alas86 said:
adamantine said:
What. IDK how sarcastic you're being here, but if a parent was that worried they would home school their kids.
I was totally and completely sarcastic obviously... but home schooling isn't as convenient as sending their kids off... and I suspect not as cheap either... though calling some private schools cheap with the prices they demand takes a lot of nerve... ;)
Well, if I was an over-protective parent I would do a good job it. Start young with putting a leash on them whenever we leave the house, monitor what they read/watch, put tracking devices in all their stuff... I mean if you're going to do something, might as well go all out.
 
08-17-09, 2:56 AM

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I think that`s lame.
 
08-17-09, 3:38 AM

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Nah let them be, I really dont care


 
08-17-09, 3:44 AM
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I came from an exclusive school - no problem whatsoever in most areas, especially academics. Exclusive schools here are private schools and have a higher standard of academics. Public schools are co-eds and suffer from an appalling lack of funds. Students from public schools have lower average grade score nationwide than those in private schools. That is the main reason I was enrolled in one. Plus you get a foot inside those toney universities which I did get into.

I know it's total BS to say those that who go to an exclusive school suffer socially than those in co-ed. In here, the best and the brightest comes from these particular schools.
 
08-17-09, 3:47 AM

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Without girls on school it would be boring :( today i was my new school and we have a harem xD without girls at school it would be SO boring :(
 
08-17-09, 6:59 AM

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Yes! Co-ed is much more fun!
 
08-17-09, 7:35 AM

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I think people should get along with both genders when they're young, but it's not like people from a single-gender school are per say anti social. Loads of reasons to back up both :(. I would never go to an all mens school though. I just like it simple and be around with both, but that's what I'm used to I guess.
 
08-17-09, 12:43 PM

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I think this is the only topic so far where I've disagreed with you, alas.
I see no reason to abolish them. As someone already pointed out, such schools almost always have sister schools for the opposite gender, so it's not like anyone is being denied an opportunity. And besides, private religious schools are allowed to deny people of other faiths, so why can't other private schools deny people because of gender?
 
08-17-09, 4:14 PM

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I went to an all girls school for most of my life...it wasn't that bad, but I was in for a really big shock when I went to a co-ed school for my final year. I had no idea how to deal with guys... Now that I think about it, it's kind of funny ^^

I think single-sex schools are okay while you're younger, but other than that...
 
08-17-09, 5:06 PM

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adamantine said:
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Attending a single-sex school doesn't mean one is banned from interactions with the opposite sex outside of school. (: So I don't think "learning to interact with the opposite sex" is a problem at all.
Not to mention people tend to hang out people of their own gender in school anyway. That or close cliques where gender doesn't matter because everyone in the group is the same anyway.

I prefer co-ed schools since the idea being trapped in a building with a bunch of females sounds like pure torture but that doesn't mean single-sex schools should be banned because of my own preference.
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I would rather have single sex schools than bull shit catholic schools that teach students "intellegent design and that the world is only 4000 years old that disease is gods wraith on your body and that the devil planted dinosaur bones to prove god wrong. Compared to that i have no problem with single sex schools
It's not just the private schools that have issues. 16% [of Americans] believe public schools should teach creation only. So yeah. :|
thanks for pointing out the glaring retardation of American society... oh... another fun fact, 44% of americans think that jesus will come within the next 50 years to judge the living and the dead... think about that for a second...
if its a religious reason to have single sex schools, then i must heave a heavy sigh at their ridiculousness, though i wont force them to have co-ed. as i stated, if its receiving government funding of any sort, co-ed should be a requirement, since everyone paid for it(tax money), its a school for everyone.
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08-17-09, 5:19 PM

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Since I personally go to an all girls college, I think its fine. We still have some boys who attend classes they just can't live on campus or anything. It's actually a lot easier to pay attention to my studies and I don't regret making the decision to attend an all girls college. ^^
 
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against ....

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single sex-school like hell........

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08-17-09, 11:17 PM

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i go to an all-boys catholic high school. i would vote no to abolishing them, let there be single sex schools because it's not like i never see any girls or anything, i just never see them during school. People are voting against it because then the kids don't get to interact with the opposite sex, but it's not like we can't after school! I find it less destracting and you make a lot more friends this way. Also most nonco-ed schools are private, so it's not like the kids don't have a choice in going(although my parents did make me go, but now i'm glad i went because i never would have gotten into anime if i hadn't).
 
08-17-09, 11:35 PM

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I dont think they should be abolished.I even like them.Wish I was in one >.<
 
08-18-09, 12:02 AM

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I have to think this over seriously. I actually go to a Catholic boys school right now. HOWEVER before that I went to a parallel ed school. Meaning that there are boys and girls in the same school but separate classes. Before THAT I was in a co-ed school. So I have some experience. Moving on.

Yes I do believe that single sex schools are not that great. However I won't go as far to say that they should abolished. I believe that they won't help a child in life. Reason being that it doesn't help with social interaction at all. Sure a person achieves a huge advantage academically and probably gets a great job when they grow up. But what about family? It's no good being a genius if you're lonely as hell.

Parents do send kids to single sex schools for different reasons. Most believe that it'll help the child concentrate on their studies, as there won't be the distraction of the opposite sex. Of course this can be agreed with or disagreed with. I can't decide if I agree or disagree. On one hand, the child is able to concentrate better. On the other hand it really does depend on what type of child the kid is. Will they work hard no matter where they are? It's a huge question to answer.

In short; single sex schools are a bad idea. However the parents AND the child have to make a decision on what type of school they're going to go to and what the child will do once there. I personally do not believe that single sex schools should be abolished but the parent should think seriously about the effect on their child.

 
08-18-09, 12:54 AM

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Yes. Them. It is the parents choice where to send their kid. And I don't think that's the reason parents send their kids to single-sex schools. At least it wasn't my parents' motive.


That's BS. It should be the child's choice mostly.

Some things to add. Interacting with the opposite sex during school and own time is pretty different. It's like interacting with the opposite sex with co-workers then comparing it with friends. Also, if someone wants to learn they will, having a girl/guy around shouldn't effect it.

 
08-18-09, 1:30 AM

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i would say that "less distractions" is not enough of an excuse to support single sex schools...
if you are comfortable with the other sex, then there wont really be any distractions anyways. its easier to get comfortable with the opposite sex if you are around them more.
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i thought human`s suppose to be good to each other ^_^
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It's not as if single sex schools lessen the crap of everyday development. I just honestly think there's nothing to gain by filtering and organizing students by gender. The only think that will achieve is less exposure to other people in your age group.

As for the less distractions part, I don't think that's the case. Kids will be distracted by the opposite sex no matter what is done to segregate them. If anything, I think it would encourage kids to sneak out of school much more often, but that's just my opinion.

Also, I've had plenty of group projects with very intelligent females, so picturing that situation where you don't get the chance to work with them because of segregation? Even if the system works as is now, the meaningless separation is doing us no favors.

Schools aren't allowed to select based on race, so honestly, how is this any different?
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08-18-09, 6:31 AM

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i would say that "less distractions" is not enough of an excuse to support single sex schools...
if you are comfortable with the other sex, then there wont really be any distractions anyways. its easier to get comfortable with the opposite sex if you are around them more.

True. "Less distractions" is definitely not a justified answer to such a strong question. However we cannot change how fast or slow a child develops. For some, getting comfortable with the opposite sex is a breeze. For some, it's as hard as trying to catch a bullet between the teeth. And for these particular children, they will try as hard as they can to become comfortable and the longer this goes on, the longer they will be distracted from their education. With the same gender, it is easier to fit in and easier to concentrate on their work.

And don't forgot that a child must first adjust to the people around them, despite their gender, and having two genders to try to adjust to is much more difficult than only adjusting to the same gender. It can be safe to say that everyone feels much more comfortable with the same gender. For some maybe it isn't, but for children as young as 12, it is much more less trying for them.

Of course it is hard to answer a question when dealing with a hypothetical situation.

EDIT: In reply to the above. True a child becomes more exposed to more children of their own age. But this also exposes them to a wider range of personalities, ethics, morals etc. These can contradict with the child's and can lead to disagreements and eventually to the "hate" stage. You find that one gender always criticizes the opposite sex more harshly than their own and so it becomes increasingly difficult for the child to adjust.

Also not everyone is as lucky to find females or males who are similar to themselves and are actually nice. There are always a few bad ones who try to make the other feel like hell. It is a real shame to be honest. One bad experience can affect you forever.
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There has been quite a number of studies devoted to the advantages and disadvantages of single-sex achools. From what I've read so far single-sex school seems to be favored by a number of educators. The reasons are not flattering to boys at all*sigh.*

Among other things, it has something to do with the way the genders think and putting girls in single-sex school is better for the girls BUT putting boys with girls are better for the boys. Poor kittens...no wonder daddy's about to whip out his gun and blindside little puppies.

"Their answer chimes perfectly with the conventional wisdom: Boys benefit from being in a classroom with girls, but girls do not benefit from being in a classroom with boys...

Boys pollute the educational system, it seems, for a number of unmysterious reasons: They wear down teachers, disrupt classes, and ruin the atmosphere for everyone. And more boys are worse than fewer boys, not because they egg each other on but simply because more of them can cause more trouble in total.

Researchers from the University of London's Institute of Education have asked a related question, comparing mixed schools with single-sex schools
Their conclusions, published last year, were subtly different. They found that boys disrupt mixed classrooms, but found that boys did not do any worse if locked up in a single-sex school."
-Tim Harford

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There has been quite a number of studies devoted to the advantages and disadvantages of single-sex achools. From what I've read so far single-sex school seems to be favored by a number of educators. The reasons are not flattering to boys at all*sigh.*

Among other things, it has something to do with the way the genders think and putting girls in single-sex school is better for the girls BUT putting boys with girls are better for the boys. Poor kittens...no wonder daddy's about to whip out his gun and blindside little puppies.

"Their answer chimes perfectly with the conventional wisdom: Boys benefit from being in a classroom with girls, but girls do not benefit from being in a classroom with boys...

Boys pollute the educational system, it seems, for a number of unmysterious reasons: They wear down teachers, disrupt classes, and ruin the atmosphere for everyone. And more boys are worse than fewer boys, not because they egg each other on but simply because more of them can cause more trouble in total.

Researchers from the University of London's Institute of Education have asked a related question, comparing mixed schools with single-sex schools
Their conclusions, published last year, were subtly different. They found that boys disrupt mixed classrooms, but found that boys did not do any worse if locked up in a single-sex school."
-Tim Harford

More yaoi and yuri scenarios, anyone?
i think the real reason is society itself, the way that we teach boys and girls to be "boys and girls", just think about it, girls are taught to be submissive, boys are encouraged to be rowdy and authoritative... if you look at the preferred qualities in girls and boys in society, the boys will have all the positive healthy mental processes, while the girls are preferred to have thought processes of people in poor mental health.
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08-18-09, 5:02 PM

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Hmmm, a single sex school? is that where you can do it only once??

I could never go to a school where you had sex only once, its just not normal ^_^
 
08-19-09, 2:42 AM
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Hmmm, a single sex school? is that where you can do it only once??

I could never go to a school where you had sex only once, its just not normal ^_^


Hahaha...of course, you get to do it only once!(O_O) But you get to do it once with each and everyone who cares to do it with you...(^-^)b
 
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Single-Sex school is not interesting at all.
 
08-20-09, 3:40 AM

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Single-Sex school is not interesting at all.


Yeah, what will happen at prom night?

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TsukikageRan said:
There has been quite a number of studies devoted to the advantages and disadvantages of single-sex achools. From what I've read so far single-sex school seems to be favored by a number of educators. The reasons are not flattering to boys at all*sigh.*

Among other things, it has something to do with the way the genders think and putting girls in single-sex school is better for the girls BUT putting boys with girls are better for the boys. Poor kittens...no wonder daddy's about to whip out his gun and blindside little puppies.

"Their answer chimes perfectly with the conventional wisdom: Boys benefit from being in a classroom with girls, but girls do not benefit from being in a classroom with boys...

Boys pollute the educational system, it seems, for a number of unmysterious reasons: They wear down teachers, disrupt classes, and ruin the atmosphere for everyone. And more boys are worse than fewer boys, not because they egg each other on but simply because more of them can cause more trouble in total.

Researchers from the University of London's Institute of Education have asked a related question, comparing mixed schools with single-sex schools
Their conclusions, published last year, were subtly different. They found that boys disrupt mixed classrooms, but found that boys did not do any worse if locked up in a single-sex school."
-Tim Harford

More yaoi and yuri scenarios, anyone?
i think the real reason is society itself, the way that we teach boys and girls to be "boys and girls", just think about it, girls are taught to be submissive, boys are encouraged to be rowdy and authoritative... if you look at the preferred qualities in girls and boys in society, the boys will have all the positive healthy mental processes, while the girls are preferred to have thought processes of people in poor mental health.
I treat men and women the same, respect should be given to those who earn and deserve it.


THe qualities that are expected of each gender would rub off on the other. Which is a good thing, I guess.
The era of the 'maidenly' female and 'manly' male and all the biases that go with that whole mess is over.
And I agree that respect should be earned.
Still, TsukikageRan, those facts about boys polluting the educational system are interesting. A bit harsh on boys, rather. Girls are doing exactly the same thing, but as elc1247 said, there are preferred actions that seem to be forced on both genders by adults. Girls doing the same exuberant actions and probably the same pranks get off easier precisely because teachers can't believe a girl would do something like that. Though I did know a couple of teachers that did not have the philosophy.
 
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Meh, the harsh comment on boys was by the author of the article. I just read up on single sex school studies:

'-Another national study from UCLA Graduate School of Education & Information Studies claims to show that girls from single sex schools have an edge over their coed peers.

-The proponents of single sex education argue that boys in coeducational settings are less likely to take courses in the arts or tackle advanced academic subjects simply to avoid being typecast as a nerd. Similarly girls avoid the sciences and technology subjects because they don't want to appear to be tomboys.'
....Robert Kennedy

It goes on and on. This one is so true, generally speaking :
'Elementary school is generally easier for girls than for boys because of their basic natures and thought processes. Boys tend to be more physically active and prefer hands-on learning, whereas young girls are more likely to succeed sitting at a desk, reading, writing and listening for longer periods of time.'
-Kate Johnson

'One of the main reason boys struggle more than girls in elementary school is that they are not 'geared' toward sitting in class and studying. Girls will often sit quietly and enjoy more quiet activities. Boys on the other hand, in general, will wiggle and squirm and try to get out of work.

This is one reason to advocate separating genders in the classroom. Boys and girls are very different in how they respond to the classroom, leaving many classrooms teaching more to the boys, who demand more attention.

Boys are also more likely to have ADD or other learning problems. In dealing with this, it doesn't matter if the chicken or the egg came first, the symptoms are what get treated. This means more boys may be 'labeled' because they more often exhibit troublesome behaviors in the classroom.'
--Angela S. Young

This book 'Boys and Girls Learn Differently!: A Guide for Teachers and Parents
by Michael Gurian, Patricia Henley, Terry Trueman is used in Foley Intermediate School as a guide to teachers.

The topic is if single sex school should be abolished and I didn't want to just say 'no' without knowing why...
 
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I don't really mind...
 
10-30-09, 9:49 PM

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im in a single sex skl, it is total crap. Really regret going to it even tho my grades are really good. Unless you experience it, you won't know how bad it is. I get the idea of not having distraction in skl but i just think its boring with out some rivalry and teamwork during classes between the sexes

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I believe that single-sex schools are not really fine. When you're studying in school you're study not only the subjects, such as maths, biology and others, but how to behave yourself with others, how to communicate with them. In fact, school - is model of our future adult life, and irl we're facing not only with people of our sex.
Maybe it'll be efficient to make such a school, where some subjects will be studied in a single-sex classes and some in mixed one, ore where it will be possible for pupils to communicate during the breaks.
All in all, I'm against single-sex schools.
 
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