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Mar 1, 2014 11:16 AM

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Still somewhat baffled that they would do this after hosting the Winter Olympics. Sort of parallels Nazi Germany hosting the Summer Olympics in 1936.
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Mar 1, 2014 11:31 AM

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1L0can0 said:
Still somewhat baffled that they would do this after hosting the Winter Olympics. Sort of parallels Nazi Germany hosting the Summer Olympics in 1936.

Who's Nazi here?

The leader of Ukrainian nazis Yarosh is now openly asking Chechen terrorists to join the forces against Russia.
http://rt.com/news/yarosh-nationalist-address-umarov-380/

The message itself (in Russian) (update: the account has been banned according to anti-terrorism law, but the screenshot of the message is still available at the RT link above)
https://vk.com/wall-62043361_105232

So yeah, West, are you going to support people who ally themselves with terrorists once again?
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Mar 1, 2014 11:34 AM

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seishi-sama said:

So yeah, West, are you going to support people who ally themselves with terrorists once again?


The United States loves to fund terrorists.
Mar 1, 2014 11:39 AM

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Well, one good thing is that Obama's inane "reset" policy with Russia has failed so spectacularly that it will probably end up tarnishing the Democrats with being naive and weak on foreign policy for another 50 years.

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Mar 1, 2014 12:04 PM

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I don't know what the EU and US was thinking, that Russia would just allow yet one more former Region to fall and to permantly isolate its self.
Mar 1, 2014 12:07 PM

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seishi-sama said:
1L0can0 said:
Still somewhat baffled that they would do this after hosting the Winter Olympics. Sort of parallels Nazi Germany hosting the Summer Olympics in 1936.

Who's Nazi here?

The leader of Ukrainian nazis Yarosh is now openly asking Chechen terrorists to join the forces against Russia.
http://rt.com/news/yarosh-nationalist-address-umarov-380/

The message itself (in Russian)
https://vk.com/wall-62043361_105232

So yeah, West, are you going to support people who ally themselves with terrorists once again?



Obama should hold steadfast at just watching this thing unfold and see how this plays out.
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Mar 1, 2014 12:26 PM

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The west will defend democracy!!!!!!!!11111@@@22
Mar 1, 2014 2:11 PM

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seishi-sama said:

Who's Nazi here?

The leader of Ukrainian nazis Yarosh is now openly asking Chechen terrorists to join the forces against Russia.
http://rt.com/news/yarosh-nationalist-address-umarov-380/

The message itself (in Russian)
https://vk.com/wall-62043361_105232

So yeah, West, are you going to support people who ally themselves with terrorists once again?


The Western Media has been hiding that fact among others. The Russian Response is fully justified.
Mar 1, 2014 2:51 PM
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I feel like the rights of the civilians and what Ukraine wants is becoming semantics to Putin protecting his precious gas and the EU are trying to make a deal with Ukraine taking the gas.

Either way, I heard 70% of the Ukrainians are behind Russia, and I theorise that the majority of the inhabitants of Kiev, where it all began is more EU-centered, which is why it was able to escalate this far.

At this point they should try their hardest to create stability in the country. Both sides have shown horrible things to the other and it doesn't help that tension is rising between the EU and Russia.
Mar 1, 2014 3:51 PM

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Well looks like NATO's been called up for a meeting. Let's see who gets to wear the blue hats should they decide to intervene.
Mar 1, 2014 3:55 PM

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Anyone else thinking Russia may use force to take Ukraine?

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Mar 1, 2014 4:12 PM

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Not likely though they might prop up the Eastern and southern zones that are seemingly ready to break away from the Ukrain or turn against the Kievians. Overall while the Ukraine has called up its armed forces, those in the southern and Eastern zones haven't made any moves against pro-russian protestors, or forces. Defactoly the Navy is hiding the Airforce is grounded, and the Army is split 50/50.

It all matters on who blinks first, backs down, or if a split is allowed to happen. Its a very bad wild card situation that could lead to dire, global consquences. Russia can't back down, and the west will lose face. The Ukranians, both sides want the country unified, but their way or else.

The lovely little island in the black sea however, has never liked being part of the Ukraine, and the Tartars arn't a threat, if they rise up, you can beat the Cossacks will roll down on them.

The biggest problem is the west miscalculated, and the Ukranians as well. Russia can ill affoard it to turn westward. And Europe can't do anything to Russia. Unless it wants to buy Arab oil and gas at higher prices. China would be more than happy to buy what Europe will not.

On the other hand a Russian Invasion would be costly. Though it would win. It is possible however they could get Belarus to play a role, and split the country in two. Overall though I think this will take a "Peoples Army" approach and any Russian forces will join the Ukranians in the east to "Secure the motherland." Or are counting on such a display of force to shut the west up. Or to get them to attack Russian zones.
Mar 1, 2014 6:23 PM

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Fucking USA who the fuck do they think they are sticking their noses in Europe's business
Mar 1, 2014 6:40 PM

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EU would not touch Crimea base, that is I'm sure. Probably at the worst case it would be Georgia (South Ossetia) all over again.
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Mar 1, 2014 7:10 PM

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Well the Situation might have gotten more complicated.

The lovely neo nazi's have ran up some choice decorations in kiev, also these lovely formations have made themselves known

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w4dVitZUhZk/TfIkeH9ACZI/AAAAAAAAAJk/o4CbIp-lQRY/s320/neo_nazis_a_Lviv_UNSO.jpg

http://defendinghistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/march_111015_2-2.jpg

http://www.rosalux.de/fileadmin/images/Ausland/UKR-5.jpg

And there are reports of some "protestors" donning the outfit of the Galician SS Division which has REALLY pissed off the Eastern half of the Country..Is the Western media, incompetant, ignorant, or a willing servent of the devil?

Also to further "oh shit" the situation, the new Minister of defense from a far right faction should I add, has threatend Russia directly and the whole NNPT treatry with "We will build a nuclear arsenal again with in 3-6 months, then we'll see what Russia will dare do."

Also far right Radicals from Spain to Sweden are seeking to join the movement. Wonder how long till Europe has a lovely facist spring.

This is all borderline insane, and frankly depending on the stupidity we'll either have a nuclear war next week, a split ukraine, or a nuclear Armed Facist state.

A Nuclear Armed Facist State. Let that Sink in.
Mar 1, 2014 7:40 PM

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At this point I think its best Russia goes in an gets a hold of the situation. Wanna be Nazis in control of a nuclear armed state is not good, not good at all.

Tensions in Europe, tensions in Asia, looming world-wide economic crisis. Sounds like a recipe for war.
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JonyJC said:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/28/Flashback-Palin-Mocked-in-2008-for-Warning-Putin-May-Invade-Ukraine-if-Obama-Elected-President
Hahahahhahahahahahahahahaha.

That one lady was not as crazy as she seems, I say. Next time Putin might invade Alaska for the sake of it, so Palin could see Russia from her house.
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Mar 2, 2014 7:28 AM

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Putin has always had a view that has fitted with the Russian Empire's for the last 900 years. Ukraine, Belarus, Central Asia. Outside of that and his customs union he has never once threartend or demanded land from the EU, or US.

An update to the Situation, all Ukranian Military units in Crimea have pledged loyality to the regional Govener and are serving alongside Russian forces. In Eastern Ukraine pro-Russian protestors have taken control of all the major cities, where Russian flags are being flown, and the protestors have elected, or placed in in a few cases new goveners, or where older ones have also asked Russia to send in its troops for protection.

They also have ran out the whole of the Pro-Kievian protestors. Likely the dramatic flare up from Odessa to Kharkiv was the result of the same issues the Germans have. Rumors of Mercinaries in the Western protest ranks are being investigate, and the new president of the Ukraine asked Al-Qadea in Checnya for help, and to attack the Russian people...which if that gets in the US Media, well I think that will outweigh the traditional hate of Russia, given well, Russia has never flew two planes into it, or bombed Boston.

Many of the units deployed there (in the East) are simply staying in Barracks not willing to do anything. Of note a huge segment of the Western Ukraine was never part of Russia untill after 1945. Having been prior part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire. It later was devided between Poland and Romania. In most respect the Eastern zones with the region around Kiev and Odessa Are the original Ukraine. The Western Sectors are not, and untill 1945 never were.

So in a manner Putin can act on the interests of the Ukraine as he sees it, As he has all of it minus Kiev, so long as his troops stop short of the western zone, which while it has ukranians, was never part of the Ukraine.

As of now recognition of a split, independant Eastern Ukraine would be best. But todays NATO Meeting will decide how it goes.

Of note is the fact Germany has completly with the nazi connection done a full about face on the matter and its media is now sticking with the pro-Russian Narrative in response to the radicalization of the protests.


Edit for typo's. sleepy :p
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Republicans call on Obama to act on Ukraine


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/01/republicans-call-on-obama-to-act-in-ukraine/?hpt=hp_t1

War hawks are amusing, aren't they?

After the constant Republican refusal to cooperate on domestic issues, Obama should do the exact opposite to this Republican call. Just sit back and watch.
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Mar 3, 2014 12:48 PM

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wow this whole thing seems like it is out of the cold war. i mean russia might as well be preparing an invasion of Ukraine at this point and if that happens it is only a matter of time before america (and possibly the EU) step in and Ukraine becomes a battle ground
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"Don't worry! As Americans, we can solve this crisis by invading! Invading solves everything! " -says every American war hawk
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Again international instruments prove they are worthless, Ukraine should split between west and east otherwise there won't be peace in future.

And Russia just piss me off, they want to be the badass of the globe.


Obama already picked the position of "lame ass of the globe" for USA, so I don't think anyone is gonna contend Russia's position for now.
Mar 4, 2014 6:37 AM

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Yulia Tymoshenko, former Ukrainian prime minister, says a Russian draft bill would annex Crimea from Ukraine


http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/03/exclusive-yulia-tymoshenko-former-ukrainian-prime-minister-says-a-russian-draft-bill-would-annex-crimea-from-ukraine/

If Russia passes that bill - then it would be outright illegal. The days of annexation ended after WW2 - unless you're Israel.
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KyuuAL said:
then it would be outright illegal

i can say more, it's impossible. As Putin said recently, this issue should be decided by the people of Ukraine
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Fake.
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Yulia Tymoshenko, former Ukrainian prime minister, says a Russian draft bill would annex Crimea from Ukraine


http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/03/exclusive-yulia-tymoshenko-former-ukrainian-prime-minister-says-a-russian-draft-bill-would-annex-crimea-from-ukraine/

If Russia passes that bill - then it would be outright illegal. The days of annexation ended after WW2 - unless you're Israel.

Another fake.


Non-fake:
http://rt.com/news/ashton-maidan-snipers-estonia-946/
Confirmation and some lame excuses:
http://rt.com/news/estonia-confirm-leaked-tape-970/
Mar 5, 2014 11:58 AM

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KyuuAL said:

After the constant Republican refusal to cooperate on domestic issues, Obama should do the exact opposite to this Republican call. Just sit back and watch.

I think I kind of agree, albeit for radically different reasons.

Thus far, Obama has shown himself to be a legitimate retard on foreign policy, somehow worse on foreign than domestic (who would have thought that could be possible?), so I think right now, we'll be better served by him doing nothing.

Clint Eastwood was wrong. An empty chair would have been 100 times better at this than Obama. At this point it's like watching a monkey hump a football.
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StopDropAndBowl said:
KyuuAL said:

After the constant Republican refusal to cooperate on domestic issues, Obama should do the exact opposite to this Republican call. Just sit back and watch.

I think I kind of agree, albeit for radically different reasons.

Thus far, Obama has shown himself to be a legitimate retard on foreign policy, somehow worse on foreign than domestic (who would have thought that could be possible?), so I think right now, we'll be better served by him doing nothing.

Clint Eastwood was wrong. An empty chair would have been 100 times better at this than Obama. At this point it's like watching a monkey hump a football.
the main problem with obama is that he tries to please everyone no matter how crazy or how they will absolutely never like him and it just gets more people angry. that and at the same time he is a giant corporatist who does the bidding of big business whenever they ask
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Krunchy said:
Again international instruments prove they are worthless, Ukraine should split between west and east otherwise there won't be peace in future.

And Russia just piss me off, they want to be the badass of the globe.


Obama already picked the position of "lame ass of the globe" for USA, so I don't think anyone is gonna contend Russia's position for now.


Hey, when America went into Iraq, the US lost its ability to say: "Hey (nation), don't invade other countries".

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Thus far, Obama has shown himself to be a legitimate retard on foreign policy, somehow worse on foreign than domestic (who would have thought that could be possible?), so I think right now, we'll be better served by him doing nothing.


By any chance, are you uttering "Benghazi"?
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Mar 5, 2014 1:19 PM

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Russia is trying to be USA not funny
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USA is doing something about that ? or they're just like "oh, man, I'm stronger, don't try it or i will show you how much" ?
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At that time, you had members of the right-wing in this country go ga-ga over Putin. Pundits like Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, Erick Erickson and Sean Hannity were praising the Russian President for his stance. Other Republicans like Pat Buchanan and Ralph Peters claimed that Putin was providing the type of leadership that the US apparently lacked at that moment. Basically, if you tuned into Fox News or talk radio during that time, you got a whole lot of Putin hero-worshiping.


http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/03/republicans-feel-hero-worshiping-vladimir-putin.html

Looks like - someone like Putin is the ideal President for Republicans: cunning, manipulative, and able to get things his way.
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I read about it on some white nationalist website claiming that Jews are behind the riots in the Ukraine. Funny shit.
was it this?
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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Mar 5, 2014 3:59 PM

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Bit of a little important bit of news

The snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Maidan leaders, according to a leaked phone conversation between the EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign affairs minister, which has emerged online. And its been confirmed to be real, by Estonia’s FM Urmas Paet himself.

The EU and western press seemingly do not want to look into the matter, but medical doctors that did the examinations have detirmined that both protestors and policemen, were killed by the same snipers, given the new "government" being unwilling to look at the matter paints them or at least someone in it as being behind the sniper attacks, which may also fall in line with scatterd reports on the far right groups having hired Mercenaries to fill in its ranks.

Overall it is a concerning matter of sorts, as it makes the whole Coup, and thats what it was a coup, unlawful and self serving.
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Sun-Times said:

Hillary Clinton took a step back Wednesday from her comments on Vladimir Putin, but did call him a "tough guy with a thin skin."

She created a bit of a stir Tuesday when she compared him to Adolf Hitler, but on Wednesday while at UCLA, said she was only trying to put Putin's actions in Ukraine in context, according to USA Today.



I just want everybody to have a little historic perspective,”
she said during remarks at UCLA.
“I’m not making a comparison certainly,
but … we can learn from this tactic that has been used before.




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Mar 5, 2014 4:55 PM
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I think Putin said he'll only use military force if absolutely necessary

all this Russian hate is pretty disgusting when most people don't even know the facts
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U.S.-based TV anchor quits Russian station during newscast



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A Washington-based news anchor for the Russia Today television network quit her job on air on Wednesday, telling viewers she could not be part of a Russian government-funded station "that whitewashes the actions of Putin."

Citing on-air comments earlier this week by another U.S.-based Russia Today presenter, Abby Martin, that Russian intervention in Ukraine's Crimea region was "wrong," Liz Wahl told viewers that "as a reporter on this network, I face many ethical and moral challenges."

"My grandparents came here as refugees during the Hungarian revolution, ironically to escape the Soviet forces," Wahl said, adding she was "very lucky to have grown up here in the United States."

"I'm proud to be an American and believe in disseminating the truth and that is why after this newscast, I'm resigning."


Read more @ U.S.-based TV an...

Good riddance, without a return.
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I have to agree with RT's statement about her. This was very unprofessional and was just a grab for attention. I'm aware of what RT is and why you'd quit, I'm fine with that, however she should have done so like a fucking adult and simply resigned off-set like a normal person, not grasped at popular opinion for positive attention and hopeful tv interviews and a better job.

This was just a childish lashing out and not the way an adult should act.

The other girl, the one who spoke against Putin and Russia's intervention in Crimea on the same station who also works for RT - she said so during her opinion show and also did not quit. Her entire show is based around her stating her opinions, so it's fine she did it because that's the point.

This girl is a normal anchor however, someone who is supposed to be unbiased and just repeat headlines and information to the viewer. Instead she abused her position of being on live TV to get attention and positive rep - it's just a publicity stunt for herself planned up by herself, and it's depressing knowing that this childish immature shit gets praised.
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KyuuAL said:

By any chance, are you uttering "Benghazi"?

Benghazi was terrible, let's throw that out there right now. One of the biggest fuck-ups I've ever seen. But it didn't start (or end) with Benghazi...

Remember 2009? The Iranian protests? Granted, Mir-Hossein Mousavi would not have been a perfect candidate; but he would have been much better than Ahmadinejad. And what did the Leader of the Free World do when the Iranian people were dying in the streets, fighting for freedom against their oppressive, slave-regime?

Nothing. He didn't even issue a strong condemnation. He cowered until the problem went away with the reformers being crushed and beaten into submission. And now we STILL have the psychotic, soon to be nuclear, Iran in the Middle East.

The "Arab Spring"? Oh well, here he was plenty willing to step in and take action. When (relatively) secular protestors are fighting against a brutal, theocratic regime, Obama is nowhere to be found. But when religious fanatics are protesting (relatively) secular regimes that actually served as a stabilizing force in the most unstable region in the world, THAT's when Obama has to flex his muscles. Let's help overthrow our long-time ally Mubarak! Let's help them slaughter Gaddafi (a total POS btw) in the streets! Because everyone knows that beating your 40+ year leader to death on camera is healthy.

Now, when conservatives warned about the "Arab Spring" and the dangers it posed, we were poo-poo'd. This was freedom in action! This was democracy in the heart of totalitarianism! This was the RIGHT way to bring enlightenment to the Middle East! How dare we suggest that Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood would bring chaos and death to Egypt? How stupid must we be to think that killing Gaddafi, as big a POS as he was, would lead to a destabilized Libya and an emboldened Al-Qaeda?

Then Benghazi happened, and we realized that Libya was destabilized and Mali happened and we realized that Al-Qaeda and it's affiliates were emboldened and more powerful than they'd ever been.

And then the military coup happened in Egypt, and we got to see thousands of people killed in the following struggle, and we realized that Mubarak may have been a son of a bitch, but he was OUR son of a bitch, and he was a better son of a bitch than the fucking Muslim Brotherhood. It's a damn good thing the Egyptian military had the balls to do what they did too, or we'd really be up shit's creek. Try being a Copt in Egypt under a Muslim Brotherhood regime and then tell me how great the "Arab Spring" was.

Syria? Once again, we can all agree that Assad is a POS and the world will be a better place when he has assumed room temperature. However, once again, he is not as bad as the alternative. And this is where the praise for Putin from the right (if it could indeed be called "praise") came from. Getting involved in Syria was a BAD idea! It would give us no benefit, would cost us greatly, and would lead to a terrible, terrible result of even more destabilization. But of course, Obama just HAS to go around issuing "red lines" that he has no intention of enforcing (thus making us look weak and ineffectual), and then proposing to further aid the overthrow of yet another leader in the Middle East, thus creating YET ANOTHER power vacuum where the only people capable of filling it are radical Islamist terrorists who hate us and Israel, and will further oppress the minorities in their country.

Now onto Russia and Putin. Now, no right-winger actually likes Putin. He is a strong leader however, and he is relatively good at being a politician. He's a clever person, both in his propaganda and in his ability to put Russia back on the geo-political map. He was right about us getting involved in Syria, and on that issue he did make Obama look like a jackass. However, he is a shifty, ex-KGB bastard with one intention only: a return of the kind of empire and power that the Soviet Union enjoyed. In this, he is directly opposed to the best interests of the US.

And he has played Obama like a well-tuned fiddle. He's bullied, tricked, and straight up out maneuvered Obama on every issue, at every turn, and the result is this catastrophe. Putin is a shark, but he is the kind of shark that a smart, tough, strong President can deal with and reign in. If we still had Reagan, Putin wouldn't even register on the radar as something important. He'd try some shit, get shot down, and then start waiting for his next opportunity. At worst, he'd keep us sharp and on our toes. With Obama, it's like watching a lamb try to play chess with a wolf. Even if you somehow beat the wolf, he's just gonna eat you anyway.

Some of this is Bush's fault. He shouldn't have done nothing when the Georgia thing blew up. But the time for blaming Bush for our problems has LONG since passed. Obama has been President for 5 fucking years. This is his problem now, and it's a rather big one.

Anyway you look at it, Obama has been dreadful from a foreign policy standpoint. I haven't even mentioned Afghanistan (losing a war we could have won), Iraq (losing a war we did win), North Korea (joining the long list of Presidents to do nothing about this shit-show), and Israel (ganging up on the only free democracy in the entire fucking Middle East). I haven't even mentioned Africa (still largely a shit-show), or South America (still ruled by communists and drug-lords).

In fact, can you find me a single example of where Obama's foreign policy has been good, or even mediocre?


Also... Benghazi.
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I'm really interested and would like to know exactly what's going on, but it's hard to find not sensationalists, not one sided news on the events.


Exactly. the best we can do is read around, see where they differ and then try to come to our conclusions from trying to find the small truths in every report.
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The "Arab Spring"? Oh well, here he was plenty willing to step in and take action. When (relatively) secular protestors are fighting against a brutal, theocratic regime, Obama is nowhere to be found. But when religious fanatics are protesting (relatively) secular regimes that actually served as a stabilizing force in the most unstable region in the world, THAT's when Obama has to flex his muscles. Let's help overthrow our long-time ally Mubarak! Let's help them slaughter Gaddafi (a total POS btw) in the streets! Because everyone knows that beating your 40+ year leader to death on camera is healthy.


Ever talked to a real Egyptian before? Because I have - in person, via a voluntary ESL class at my church.

If there's one thing he said about Egypt -- the country has plenty of skilled laborers, university graduates, and the like. However, there were no jobs for these people. Apparently, it reached a breaking point with Mubarak.

What did you expect Mubarak to do? Send out his army and crush the Arab Spring? You have to be a total retard to do that. Besides, Mubarak wasn't a long time ally. He was a puppet, who ends up no longer being useful.

Bottom line here is: When a uprising occurs, you don't mess around with it. Period.

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Same thing with the situation in the Ukraine. Let things play out a bit.

The real button for action would be -- the Russian declaration for the annexation of Crimea, before any sort of regional voting and diplomacy had occurred.

Various War Hawk Republicans (like McCain -- thank god he didn't become President) are calling for stiffer action, like reinstating the Cold War. This doesn't make things better overall; this call makes things far worse -- except for the War Contractors. I can see them salivating over the war profits now.
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Bottom line here is: When a uprising occurs, you don't mess around with it. Period.
What a joke. The only difference between what Russia is doing right now and what America has been doing for years is Russia is doing it out in the open. You would be astonished at over the years how many clandestine missions the CIA has ran to subvert the governments of countries we don't like or are strategically advantageous to us.

It would not surprise me even slightly if the current situation in Ukraine(and Syria) was birthed from a seed sewn by the CIA to cause instability in the region. The idea of proxy warfare is not a new one and has been a common tactic of both the USA and Russia for the better half of a century.
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It would not surprise me even slightly if the current situation in Ukraine(and Syria) was birthed from a seed sewn by the CIA to cause instability in the region. The idea of proxy warfare is not a new one and has been a common tactic of both the USA and Russia for the better half of a century.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_referendum,_2014

Why create a situation where Russia would gain territory? Especially an oil rich one? If I were the CIA - I would be working the exact opposite - to maintain Ukrainian territorial integrity, in order to keep Crimea away from Russia.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/06/ukraine-crisis-great-power-oil-gas-rivals-pipelines

But on the Ukraine, you're giving the CIA too much credit. I'm giving this score on Russian intelligence, if you're gonna go on this line.

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Anyways, in the latest news - things are even messier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_referendum,_2014

The huge mistake in the formation of the Ukraine -- to allow such a rich area to operate autonomously.
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There is alot hinting at the CIA and NSA being behind this, they just and in their own words "Did not expect Russia to React" then again the CIA has historically always been retarded.

It also seem the Crimea has with the majority favoring a intergration with Russia and has declared its self independant from the Ukraine, the Eastern sectors might likely fallow suit as well. Funny how the western powers are angry over it, I mean when Yugoslavia did the same...
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As much as I hate Fox News - I hate CNN slightly less. However, for today's news, I decided to take a peek as to what it looks like over there:

http://i.imgur.com/zFPjNMS.png

Really? Holy cow, that's a retarded headline. It's as if a child wrote it.
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Defiance said:
It would not surprise me even slightly if the current situation in Ukraine(and Syria) was birthed from a seed sewn by the CIA to cause instability in the region. The idea of proxy warfare is not a new one and has been a common tactic of both the USA and Russia for the better half of a century.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_referendum,_2014

Why create a situation where Russia would gain territory? Especially an oil rich one? If I were the CIA - I would be working the exact opposite - to maintain Ukrainian territorial integrity, in order to keep Crimea away from Russia.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/06/ukraine-crisis-great-power-oil-gas-rivals-pipelines

But on the Ukraine, you're giving the CIA too much credit. I'm giving this score on Russian intelligence, if you're gonna go on this line.

===

Anyways, in the latest news - things are even messier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_referendum,_2014

The huge mistake in the formation of the Ukraine -- to allow such a rich area to operate autonomously.
Are you trying to tell me that a pro-west uprising in Ukraine is not in America's interest(or what the big wigs in Washington believe to be is our interest)? What you see as an opportunity for Russia to seize territory, there is opportunity to put a friendly country on Russia's front doorstep.
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http://www.dailystormer.com/hillary-clinton-accurately-compares-putin-to-hitler/

Crimea, the new Sudetenland. Hmmmm...

This time there won't be a war though.
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