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07-31-09, 3:46 AM

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Wow, these episodes are great fun to watch. I agree with the idea that this is a direct challenge to Lawrence by Holo. Lawrence was under the impression that he could get her to ignore the contract in Amarty won out. This was essentially Holo's way of saying "Win the challenge, yourself."

My familiarity with tropes, though, says this won't play out the way Lawrence described it. It never does. The plan that's explained on camera is the one that always fails. It's the plan that doesn't isn't revealed until it happens that works. I wonder what the complication will be, and how Lawrence will handle it.
 
07-31-09, 4:56 AM

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who is gonna be in despair next ep, if its Lawrence , then more ep to this Amarty Arc which is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
07-31-09, 5:06 AM

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yea Holo man Holo get it right lmao

Awesome Sig by Lailide
 
07-31-09, 5:22 AM

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bah... horo didnt actually speak one word throughout the whole episode >:(
no horo = no love
 
07-31-09, 6:04 AM

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J3T said:
Damn it, her name is indeed 'Holo' but I still refuse to accept it. It was a good episode, I can't wait to see how the 'duel' between Lawrence and Amati turns out.
I thought the same thing about her name. I just kept saying 'Horo' to myself to kinda get it that image out of my head.

The episode was clean though, we haven't really seen any market swaying tactics from Lawerence yet, so I was a little excited about that. There was absolutely no Horo though, just her looking fair in the window of Amarti's room.
 
07-31-09, 6:53 AM

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Darn cliffhanger.. The next episode's title being "Wolf and Hope and Despair" doesn't really help either. Will Lawrence and Horo make up? Or will they throw another twist in before they conclude this arc? Argh

 
07-31-09, 7:00 AM

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Woohoooo! Early form of option pricing!
Those who understands complex financial derivatives say AYE!
Those who don't, I highly recommend "Options, futures and other derivatives" by Hull. And I always thought it was the greeks who used it first... anime proved me wrong :-P


Good episode. I think Horo didn't overreact. I also think Horo might be playing with him a little bit, since he was so over confident that Horo will go with him, she might want to put him on his toes a little bit.


Thales is commonly credited with inventing the futures option.

Medieval Europe did see some financial innovations from the Knights Templar, involving exchange rates and factors comparable to interest rates.

Holo is apparently accustomed to males who are a lot more macho and forceful than Lawrence. Therefore she seems to feel the need to put him through hell.
 
07-31-09, 7:14 AM

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noteDhero said:
Honestly, Holo (I guess now that it's canon) is being a big mooch. Game or not, she's just not worth the trouble, so I don't care who wins or looses. Though I was pretty neutral on my stance regarding Amati, after this episode, I kind of don't like him...so a great fantasy of mine would be that Lawerence suckers him for all the money he can get, shove Holo off to him, pick up Deanna or some random girl, and just leave the city. Not a bad episode.


Holo isn't worth the trouble for any man who is aggressive enough to please her. She wants some macho wife-beating bad boy, apparently.

However, Lawrence is just enough of a gambler and a strategist to try to score with a crazy high-maintenance chick. Lawrence, perhaps, just doesn't want to settle down with the girl who wanted to open a store, and he doesn't want to hire prostitutes. Lawrence wants a *challenge*. He wants a woman who is an adventure.

He should have been more careful about what he wished for...
 
07-31-09, 8:18 AM

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The make up sex is coming amirite guys? xD

 
07-31-09, 9:10 AM

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The make up sex is coming amirite guys? xD


that would be quite the sight.

Amarty bugs. Glad that the scene where Horo and him are about to "kiss" are just a figment of Lawrence's imagination. Hope things turn out well next episode.
 
07-31-09, 9:12 AM

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It's clear how all this will end but how they reach the conclusion through Lawrence's intricate plan is quite interesting/entertaining.

@PandaPuff, of course the make up sex is coming... hopefully Holo will be gentle with Lawrence.
 
07-31-09, 9:28 AM

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after what they have been through i am pretty sure she is getting back at him for not telling her after all this time. in the end she'll say it was all a joke.
 
07-31-09, 10:20 AM

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I can't stand that Amarty kid, he's like some self-righteous bitch. I hope Lawrence pwns his ass.
 
07-31-09, 10:33 AM

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Well, he does have a reason to be self-righteous. Lawrence and... holo have been telling everyone that she is basically a poor, defenseless woman forced to "work" (i'm sure the implication that it is more than just traveling with him is there) for the evil Lawrence because of her debt. She is even a nun. So if Amarty has feelings for holo, from what he thinks he knows of their situation, of course he won't like Lawrence and will think he is the knight coming to her rescue.

Thinking more about it, Holo is probably pissed that Lawrence is obviously embarrassed by her company when with his fellow traders. If i remember right, when he got the information about her village, i think that was the reason he told he that he was going alone.
 
07-31-09, 2:06 PM

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iday12 said:
Is it just me or do all of these episodes seem to fly by in five minutes?


I swear they are only 5 minutes ;p Usually i sit down watch the Intro with its relaxing tunes and then suddenly its over and i have to stand up again to stop before preview comes. Also funny that legal notice (in japanese no less!)

Aside that - I don't see why Amarty accepted that credit trading deal, every third rate trader could see that this is a very dangerous trade - he is increasing his opponents leverage without gaining anything from it. Its a fools trade with fools gold, also trade with fools gold was usually punished in the medieval times. Especially the church didn't like it (because apart from fooling buyers it also spreads paganism), so no sane trader would touch Pyrite.
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07-31-09, 2:27 PM

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:( I want Lawrence to break down in a colorful confession next episode :D lol

That scrolling text was annoying, Mazui translated the first one correctly, second one was made fun of (I lol'd), but the first translation they used was pretty much correct. I guess Brains Base just can't handle their work being distributed on intarwebs? Well, they're not well known anyways, Lol.

 
07-31-09, 2:34 PM

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Needs more Horo.
Intresting episode though. Loved all the angry faces Lawrence made.
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Is it just me or do all of these episodes seem to fly by in five minutes?
Yeah, I was surprised when ED came on.
 
07-31-09, 3:13 PM

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PandaPuff said:
The make up sex is coming amirite guys? xD


Lol.
 
07-31-09, 10:36 PM

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Yakumo_Fujii said:
Amarty goes DOWN!!! After having seen this ep I got my hope in Lawrence back! He will defnetly pull off some big thing and smash Amarty. I cant stand that girlish looking guy anyway.
 
08-01-09, 12:16 AM

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Great stuff, look forward to the master plan in action >:D
 
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