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Jul 30, 2009 8:43 AM

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If there is a penis in your mouth, ass, ear, nose, belly button or wherever they put things these days then you're gay. Other things mean nothing


I like penises. Does that make me gay?
 
Jul 30, 2009 8:51 AM

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It depends, do you wanna suck a traps dick because he is a trap?
(I could go into more vulgar detail to things you could do to a trap, but I do not like hammers of b& on my ass)

my point is what do you fantasize about. If it does not involve a vagina, then you are partially gay.

A lot of closet men go through the stage where they think they are gay, go find gay porn, and find it oh so very unattractive.
Real homosexuality is an attraction to men.

weird ass pervy sexuality is an attraction to the penis, and nothing more. (aka penises on a girl)
(well it isn't that bad, but still)

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YaYERZ said:
If there is a penis in your mouth, ass, ear, nose, belly button or wherever they put things these days then you're gay. Other things mean nothing


I like penises. Does that make me gay?


no you are a woman.

now if you liked vagina or boobs it would be a different story.
 
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Asako said:
YaYERZ said:
If there is a penis in your mouth, ass, ear, nose, belly button or wherever they put things these days then you're gay. Other things mean nothing


I like penises. Does that make me gay?
If you like it in your ear, nose or belly button you are gay. Thats counts for everyone! Freakin weirdo kids these days with they're crazy plans and insane fetishes and other stupid stuff >.>

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I think you might want to think longer and harder on the term 'perversion'.

Tecnically homosexuality is a form of 'perversion' even though I don't want that used as a negative.

To pervert is to take something and alter it's original intent.

Or perhaps you do, cause it is not the only meaning of 'perversion'.

Also, we do not really know if homosexuality is a perversion. Some are saying it might be a natural mechanism for curbing population growth.

 
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If you like it in your ear, nose or belly button you are gay. Thats counts for everyone! Freakin weirdo kids these days with they're crazy plans and insane fetishes and other stupid stuff >.>
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Brilliant logic, boyo.

In all seriousness though, does it really matter? You feel what you feel, the more hung up you get on shit, the more you're lying to yourself. Seriously, get past the 'OMG THIS IS GAY', it's the same as anything else in life. If you like it, you like it. Not everyone has to agree.
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Well, self-criticism is a value!

 
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If you like it in your ear, nose or belly button you are gay. Thats counts for everyone! Freakin weirdo kids these days with they're crazy plans and insane fetishes and other stupid stuff >.>
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Brilliant logic, boyo.

In all seriousness though, does it really matter? You feel what you feel, the more hung up you get on shit, the more you're lying to yourself. Seriously, get past the 'OMG THIS IS GAY', it's the same as anything else in life. If you like it, you like it. Not everyone has to agree.
What does that matter? the whole post was a joke >.>

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I fap to traps a lot, dont care if dick or balls are shown. Shit gets me hard.
 
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I fap to traps a lot, dont care if dick or balls are shown. Shit gets me hard.


I prefer dick and balls to be shown myself
 
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Ah, pervert is a different term than the one you people are used to in anime.
The stuff where a guy doesn't actually see a girl's panties but the girl assumes she does, calls him a pervert and kicks him in the face, is an anime.

If you live anyplace anything similar enough to anime in that aspect it's certainly loads different from anything where I live.
People who use the word pervert, in the state of Arkansas, tend to be extremely religious people and in reverse to things which violate Christian morals.

And while pornography is essentially considered a perversion of the Lord's will, accidentally seeing someone's panties or bumping into someone and falling on them is not considered a perversion. But it's more likely to describe people such as homosexuals. Perversion is more of a term to describe people who are considered sexually inferior, like homosexuals, not people who are sexual.

It really makes me think people are being given a mass miseducation sometimes when anime fans start using the world "pervert" in the anime fashion. Pervert is by no means an accurate translation of the word "ecchi".

As for crossdressing, it can be of any sexuality. Transgending is not related to one's sexual preference. For all one knows they could be as straight as to have a fetish for the clothes of the opposite sex as an attraction to them. A man who looks at women's panties in a lewd fashion is generally looked at as having a fetish, but also a heterosexual attraction. An effeminate gay is no more gay than a hypermasculine Bear.

If you crossdress, you're transgender. It doesn't imply anything else about your sexuality.

Being attracted to transgender people, on the other hand, is a different story. As I've said in other threads, if you've a penis, and you're attracted to someone else who has a penis and someone else's penis, it's not a heterosexual attraction. No matter how transgending and girly you consider that person. This person you are attracted to is male, and you no longer fit the sexual binary of being a heterosexual, you are at least bisexual to some degree, even if you are heterosexual leaning.

Similarly, the reverse is of course also true. It doesn't matter how manly a girl you are attracted to as a guy, it is still heterosexual. That applies to women as well, no matter how guyish the girl you are attracted to, it is still a non-heterosexual attraction, and you are a bisexual person for being attracted to them, even if you are primarily attracted to men.

There is no "manly" and "womanly" in homosexuality, bisexuality and heterosexuality. There is only male and female.

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Ukonkivi, I think you're the one with a "mass miseducation," to be honest. You should know that the heavily religious baptist south is a minority in America and especially the world; it hardly represents what the typical norm of society is.
 
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It's only gay if the balls touch.

In other words if the person cross-dressing is straight, then it's not gay.
If you fap to a cross-dresser that looks convincing then you're fapping to a female with a penis.
 
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Dickgirls are awesome too.
 
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Ukonkivi, I think you're the one with a "mass miseducation," to be honest. You should know that the heavily religious baptist south is a minority in America and especially the world; it hardly represents what the typical norm of society is.

But the term "perversion" is a primarily Christian used term.

And no, Christianity is not a minority in America, sadly. People are so intolerant of non-Christians in this country most said they would not vote for an Atheist president.

And the "world' is not always relevant. The term "pervert" does not exist in all cultures.

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"In God we trust".
"... so help me God".
Freaky.

This is actually interesting. What if an atheist president was elected? Would he say this in his oath?

 
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Ukonkivi, I think you're the one with a "mass miseducation," to be honest. You should know that the heavily religious baptist south is a minority in America and especially the world; it hardly represents what the typical norm of society is.

But the term "perversion" is a primarily Christian used term.

And no, Christianity is not a minority in America, sadly. People are so intolerant of non-Christians in this country most said they would not vote for an Atheist president.

And the "world' is not always relevant. The term "pervert" does not exist in all cultures.


http://humanisttoronto.blogspot.com/2009/03/news-non-religious-population-rises-in.html

oh lulz

it is a dying trend, it is just that a pissed off minority like that can be REALLY fucking loud.
 
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you are already considered gay if you say you are asexual

it's the truth let's all face it


I don't like this word. Sexual neutrality can't exist, unless your horribly broken. If we weren't driven by a primal desire to make sweet unholy love, the human race wouldn't be around for too long. I just wonder how to "correctly" label each sexuality (ie. your gay is ____ and not if ____). Even if it is pointless; at the end of the day, the dickgirls and the traps are gonna remain quite awesome for me. And to clarify, the fact that there's a cock on it is part of why it's awesome. A pretty large part.

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Does it really matter? You feel what you feel and that's it. I think most people are at least a little bit bisexual.
Btw, the trap in the picture looks like a hot chick and it could very well be one, considering it's just a drawing - if a dick is not painted, it doesn't exist there.


But, when I look at that I do not picture a girl in my head. For whatever reason, the fact that Peppo was not ACTUALLY a girl makes her hella hot. If he was she, I'd be much less aroused. Same goes for the dickgirls. They'd be a lot less fun without the cocks.
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There's no difference between a genuinely convincing animated trap and an animated female. Because neither are real.
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There's no difference between a genuinely convincing animated trap and an animated female. Because neither are real.


True. However, isn't it safe to say that going out of the way to find the ones that are not actually girls isn't something generally considered straight? Also given the fact that although they're fake, they're still projecting your particular "turn ons," for example I have so far only used anime related examples because anime is the one definite common ground for every user; that isn't to say I like the idea strictly with anime. If confronted with a real life trap of desirable quality, I wouldn't think twice about hitting it. My curiosity is still does this simply get classified as homosexual, since it is sex with a dude when all is said and done, or is there a separate terminology for it since the convincing female dress and appearance is important as well?

And not to derail a topic I created, but where the hell is your avatar from. It is really cool.
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There's no difference between a genuinely convincing animated trap and an animated female. Because neither are real.


True. However, isn't it safe to say that going out of the way to find the ones that are not actually girls isn't something generally considered straight? Also given the fact that although they're fake, they're still projecting your particular "turn ons," for example I have so far only used anime related examples because anime is the one definite common ground for every user; that isn't to say I like the idea strictly with anime. If confronted with a real life trap of desirable quality, I wouldn't think twice about hitting it. My curiosity is still does this simply get classified as homosexual, since it is sex with a dude when all is said and done, or is there a separate terminology for it since the convincing female dress and appearance is important as well?

And not to derail a topic I created, but where the hell is your avatar from. It is really cool.


Well, I wouldn't necessarily classify that as homosexual? Maybe masochistic instead? I honestly don't know why I think it is such, since at face value classifying it as such makes absolutely no sense, but considering I kind of know what you're talking about that's just the feeling I get. I'm probably wrong though lol.


And my signature/avatar is from the manga called "20th Century Boys", which is currently the #1 rated form of media on MAL, and the #1 rated manga lol. The avatar himself is called "Friend".
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Sin said:
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There's no difference between a genuinely convincing animated trap and an animated female. Because neither are real.


True. However, isn't it safe to say that going out of the way to find the ones that are not actually girls isn't something generally considered straight? Also given the fact that although they're fake, they're still projecting your particular "turn ons," for example I have so far only used anime related examples because anime is the one definite common ground for every user; that isn't to say I like the idea strictly with anime. If confronted with a real life trap of desirable quality, I wouldn't think twice about hitting it. My curiosity is still does this simply get classified as homosexual, since it is sex with a dude when all is said and done, or is there a separate terminology for it since the convincing female dress and appearance is important as well?

And not to derail a topic I created, but where the hell is your avatar from. It is really cool.


Well, I wouldn't necessarily classify that as homosexual? Maybe masochistic instead? I honestly don't know why I think it is such, since at face value classifying it as such makes absolutely no sense, but considering I kind of know what you're talking about that's just the feeling I get. I'm probably wrong though lol.


And my signature/avatar is from the manga called "20th Century Boys", which is currently the #1 rated form of media on MAL, and the #1 rated manga lol. The avatar himself is called "Friend".


Well it is definitely eye catching and awesome. I'm gonna have to look more into it, thanks for the tip.
And I think, somehow, and correct me if I am wrong, I get what you mean by masochism. Masochism would be enjoying pain, and I imagine there could be a "pain" of sorts derived from traps/gender neutrality, as their is a fairly prevalent element of deception about it, that confusion of the wrapping not quite matching the package, could most definitely be upsetting to someone who considers themselves 100% straight. And reading that, it's a mess, so in case it doesn't make sense what I thought of after reading the masochism comment was that basically it is, in a minimal way, because your intentionally deceiving yourself and bringing about an intentional conflict. Possibly.
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mightykid218 said:
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There's no difference between a genuinely convincing animated trap and an animated female. Because neither are real.


True. However, isn't it safe to say that going out of the way to find the ones that are not actually girls isn't something generally considered straight? Also given the fact that although they're fake, they're still projecting your particular "turn ons," for example I have so far only used anime related examples because anime is the one definite common ground for every user; that isn't to say I like the idea strictly with anime. If confronted with a real life trap of desirable quality, I wouldn't think twice about hitting it. My curiosity is still does this simply get classified as homosexual, since it is sex with a dude when all is said and done, or is there a separate terminology for it since the convincing female dress and appearance is important as well?

And not to derail a topic I created, but where the hell is your avatar from. It is really cool.


Well, I wouldn't necessarily classify that as homosexual? Maybe masochistic instead? I honestly don't know why I think it is such, since at face value classifying it as such makes absolutely no sense, but considering I kind of know what you're talking about that's just the feeling I get. I'm probably wrong though lol.


And my signature/avatar is from the manga called "20th Century Boys", which is currently the #1 rated form of media on MAL, and the #1 rated manga lol. The avatar himself is called "Friend".


Well it is definitely eye catching and awesome. I'm gonna have to look more into it, thanks for the tip.
And I think, somehow, and correct me if I am wrong, I get what you mean by masochism. Masochism would be enjoying pain, and I imagine there could be a "pain" of sorts derived from traps/gender neutrality, as their is a fairly prevalent element of deception about it, that confusion of the wrapping not quite matching the package, could most definitely be upsetting to someone who considers themselves 100% straight. And reading that, it's a mess, so in case it doesn't make sense what I thought of after reading the masochism comment was that basically it is, in a minimal way, because your intentionally deceiving yourself and bringing about an intentional conflict. Possibly.


Well, I meant more in the way of maybe imagining yourself in the humiliating position of being a female? lol I dunno, once again I'm probably completely wrong though.
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Sin said:
mightykid218 said:
Sin said:
mightykid218 said:
Sin said:
There's no difference between a genuinely convincing animated trap and an animated female. Because neither are real.


True. However, isn't it safe to say that going out of the way to find the ones that are not actually girls isn't something generally considered straight? Also given the fact that although they're fake, they're still projecting your particular "turn ons," for example I have so far only used anime related examples because anime is the one definite common ground for every user; that isn't to say I like the idea strictly with anime. If confronted with a real life trap of desirable quality, I wouldn't think twice about hitting it. My curiosity is still does this simply get classified as homosexual, since it is sex with a dude when all is said and done, or is there a separate terminology for it since the convincing female dress and appearance is important as well?

And not to derail a topic I created, but where the hell is your avatar from. It is really cool.


Well, I wouldn't necessarily classify that as homosexual? Maybe masochistic instead? I honestly don't know why I think it is such, since at face value classifying it as such makes absolutely no sense, but considering I kind of know what you're talking about that's just the feeling I get. I'm probably wrong though lol.


And my signature/avatar is from the manga called "20th Century Boys", which is currently the #1 rated form of media on MAL, and the #1 rated manga lol. The avatar himself is called "Friend".


Well it is definitely eye catching and awesome. I'm gonna have to look more into it, thanks for the tip.
And I think, somehow, and correct me if I am wrong, I get what you mean by masochism. Masochism would be enjoying pain, and I imagine there could be a "pain" of sorts derived from traps/gender neutrality, as their is a fairly prevalent element of deception about it, that confusion of the wrapping not quite matching the package, could most definitely be upsetting to someone who considers themselves 100% straight. And reading that, it's a mess, so in case it doesn't make sense what I thought of after reading the masochism comment was that basically it is, in a minimal way, because your intentionally deceiving yourself and bringing about an intentional conflict. Possibly.


Well, I meant more in the way of maybe imagining yourself in the humiliating position of being a female? lol I dunno, once again I'm probably completely wrong though.


Though that makes sense, seeing as humiliation is a fine form of mental humiliation, as far as my curiosity as how to define my own interests (or deep, disturbing issues depending on who's reading) it doesn't really matter, because I have never considered crossdressing myself. I look mostly akin to wolfman, so I'd be the most unattractive girl that no one wants to see (well, besides wolfman). But I wouldn't call it wrong by any means. I wonder though, crossdressing, would that be considered homosexual even if you dressed up like a girl and went out to sleep with girls anyways?
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mightykid218 said:
Sin said:
mightykid218 said:
Sin said:
mightykid218 said:
Sin said:
There's no difference between a genuinely convincing animated trap and an animated female. Because neither are real.


True. However, isn't it safe to say that going out of the way to find the ones that are not actually girls isn't something generally considered straight? Also given the fact that although they're fake, they're still projecting your particular "turn ons," for example I have so far only used anime related examples because anime is the one definite common ground for every user; that isn't to say I like the idea strictly with anime. If confronted with a real life trap of desirable quality, I wouldn't think twice about hitting it. My curiosity is still does this simply get classified as homosexual, since it is sex with a dude when all is said and done, or is there a separate terminology for it since the convincing female dress and appearance is important as well?

And not to derail a topic I created, but where the hell is your avatar from. It is really cool.


Well, I wouldn't necessarily classify that as homosexual? Maybe masochistic instead? I honestly don't know why I think it is such, since at face value classifying it as such makes absolutely no sense, but considering I kind of know what you're talking about that's just the feeling I get. I'm probably wrong though lol.


And my signature/avatar is from the manga called "20th Century Boys", which is currently the #1 rated form of media on MAL, and the #1 rated manga lol. The avatar himself is called "Friend".


Well it is definitely eye catching and awesome. I'm gonna have to look more into it, thanks for the tip.
And I think, somehow, and correct me if I am wrong, I get what you mean by masochism. Masochism would be enjoying pain, and I imagine there could be a "pain" of sorts derived from traps/gender neutrality, as their is a fairly prevalent element of deception about it, that confusion of the wrapping not quite matching the package, could most definitely be upsetting to someone who considers themselves 100% straight. And reading that, it's a mess, so in case it doesn't make sense what I thought of after reading the masochism comment was that basically it is, in a minimal way, because your intentionally deceiving yourself and bringing about an intentional conflict. Possibly.


Well, I meant more in the way of maybe imagining yourself in the humiliating position of being a female? lol I dunno, once again I'm probably completely wrong though.


Though that makes sense, seeing as humiliation is a fine form of mental humiliation, as far as my curiosity as how to define my own interests (or deep, disturbing issues depending on who's reading) it doesn't really matter, because I have never considered crossdressing myself. I look mostly akin to wolfman, so I'd be the most unattractive girl that no one wants to see (well, besides wolfman). But I wouldn't call it wrong by any means. I wonder though, crossdressing, would that be considered homosexual even if you dressed up like a girl and went out to sleep with girls anyways?


Naw, there's a huge difference between being a transvestite and a homosexual.
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Why do you care?

If you believe you have any attraction to men, you should be confident and embrace it fully. As time passes, you will figure out your sexuality.

I find the fact that i like both genders extremely fun. Anybody who is troubled by that should take life less seriously.
 
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Who's that girl in OP's picture?
 
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sorry to break it to you,but yea

Enjoy it
 
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Eh. I never considered myself bisexual to begin with.

There were a few things I did in childhood (or at very early puberty) than many would consider 'gay', but it seemed like mostly a phase, and I ended up caring exclusively for women for some years. The I found THE INTERNETZ (stupid 4chan), and started looking at gender-bending stuff, then dick-girls, then traps, etc, and then after some time made my way to yaoi, and then live action gay pornography. Of course now that this has happened a lot of actions in my past make more sense in such a context, but I can safely say that 2 years ago I was 100% sure that I was straight, and there wasn't a doubt in my mind.

As far as whether or not liking traps makes you gay, I think it depends on why you like traps. If you like them because they look like women (and anime traps ARE like women, I mean, it's not as if there is any bone structure that needs to be hidden--it's just a female model with a schlong) then I would say you're straight. If you like the ambiguity, then I might label it as an acquired fetish (I doubt people are born liking scat porn or S&M either, but that doesn't mean they can't acquire the taste). If you like the trap because it's a man, then I would say you're gay or bisexual.

I think that everyone is capable of at least one encounter with a sex contrary to their orientation (that is, a heterosexual encounter for the homosexual and homosexual encounter for the heterosexual), but that it is largely societal pressures that keep people from doing so, and even from admitting to themselves their desires, temptations, etc. Though, I think that most men are so goal-driven that even bisexuals will prefer (sometimes strongly) one gender at a time.
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I think that everyone is capable of at least one encounter with a sex contrary to their (stated)orientation

And this is why many people make the statement that "most people are bisexual to some degree".

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If you thought he was hot before he was introduced as a trap: ok
If you thought he was hot because he was introduced as a trap: gay

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Who's that girl in OP's picture?

http://myanimelist.net/character/2300/Peppo
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I have to wonder now, exactly HOW far down the rabbit hole do you have to venture before you are actually considered homosexual/bisexual/whateverthefuck. Because I don't ever hook up with, or really even think about hooking up with, other men. However, the following:

I find the effeminate, convincing traps to be very hot. I've deffinetly fapped to thing like the above picture, even if I've never actually had a real life homosexual encounter. And saying "bisexual" feels like a lie. Because I've yet to run into a guy I'd even consider doing anything with. So now I have to wonder, do you have to board the gay train completely to ride as an official member, or do you still count even with just a limb or two in the door?


I think the fact that you find an anime character hot is alot worse than being gay. You should get that checked beforehand. Unless it's Lum from Yatsura, it's not cool.
 
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OP posted a picture? That guy is ADORABLE!

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OP posted a picture? That guy is ADORABLE!


There are no such things as anime traps. There are only women with schlongs, which strangely enough don't create buldge.
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If its got a penis and you're turned on by it you're gay/bi.

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Eh. I never considered myself bisexual to begin with.

There were a few things I did in childhood (or at very early puberty) than many would consider 'gay', but it seemed like mostly a phase, and I ended up caring exclusively for women for some years. The I found THE INTERNETZ (stupid 4chan), and started looking at gender-bending stuff, then dick-girls, then traps, etc, and then after some time made my way to yaoi, and then live action gay pornography. Of course now that this has happened a lot of actions in my past make more sense in such a context, but I can safely say that 2 years ago I was 100% sure that I was straight, and there wasn't a doubt in my mind.

As far as whether or not liking traps makes you gay, I think it depends on why you like traps. If you like them because they look like women (and anime traps ARE like women, I mean, it's not as if there is any bone structure that needs to be hidden--it's just a female model with a schlong) then I would say you're straight. If you like the ambiguity, then I might label it as an acquired fetish (I doubt people are born liking scat porn or S&M either, but that doesn't mean they can't acquire the taste). If you like the trap because it's a man, then I would say you're gay or bisexual.

I think that everyone is capable of at least one encounter with a sex contrary to their orientation (that is, a heterosexual encounter for the homosexual and homosexual encounter for the heterosexual), but that it is largely societal pressures that keep people from doing so, and even from admitting to themselves their desires, temptations, etc. Though, I think that most men are so goal-driven that even bisexuals will prefer (sometimes strongly) one gender at a time.


Very similar to myself.

I had a fun "experience" with my cousin as a kid. I didn't give it much thought, though. After that, I was all "GAY PEOPLE SHOULD DIE"... When I was 14 or so, I realized that I had prejudice towards many people, so I started to gradually open my mind. It was very fun - throwing off everything the society had teached me and becoming a whole new person. Today, I consider myself very liberal, but there is still work left to do. :P

Anyway, as my prejudice towards homosexuality was gone, I realized that men do indeed attract me. And then yaoi. Oh, the joy.
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Does it really count if they're fictional characters?
 
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Does it really count if they're fictional characters?
Yes.
 
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doctorscraps said:
Does it really count if they're fictional characters?


Nope.
 
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After that, I was all "GAY PEOPLE SHOULD DIE"...


Lol, I was exactly the same way. Gotta love the internet: from a conservative, evangelical-protestant-evolution is a lie-fossils are from satan, hang the commie dems and vote bush, abortion is infanticide type person to a Satanist with a heavy interest in the occult, socialist leanings, and professed bisexuality.
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Shakes herself and stands apart."
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I think I may have made a couple rare homophobic remarks when I was real little just to seem cool. But most of the time I just kept my mouth shut and avoided conflict.

There was also one time when I compromised on my religion(and for good reason, my dad physically abused me one time for being a Pagan), albeit a very leftist one.

I always had a lot of things I wanted to be and support in my life. And somewhat had to suppress. But it seems like my actual, ACTUAL viewpoints haven't changed much in my life.

I just grew out of being a timid teenager and prepubescent about it.
Now I'm a lot more confident and assertive about most of my beliefs and feelings.

The only thing the internet ever gave me was a [a head full of racial slurs due to hear them all the time], due to spending way too much time on imageboards. Have a sicker sense of humor. Develop an inferiority complex over being a weeaboo, which I've thankfully grown out of in the past years, for the most part(what on EARTH was I thinking?). And I suppose I bigger headache and more suspicious viewpoint toward the world in general.
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2D traps are diffenr to real life traps.

2D traps are just women and then SUPRISE they have a penis OMG confusing :/

But real life traps are men that LOOK like women because women are nicer to look at APARENTLY but you still like cock you just want the cock in a pretty package. nothing wrong with that at all but it is the cock you want or else why not just go for a real women.

Gay people like the same sex if were talking about men since that is usualy what the term GAY is used for then its a bit different because you just accpet the person for who they are in the inside and the body is not important SURE its a factor but when it comes down to it personality is everything and as long as they have a PENIS then theres really no conceren because thats what you want a PENIS not a VAGINA.

GAY men like COCK it turns them on

straight men like VAGAINA because they are faggots.
 
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I disagree with saying that traps are necessarily looking exactly like women just plus the cock.

Women with cock are called futanari, not traps. There's a difference.
There's a gosh darn freaking Lelouch thread on /tr/. And a Kagamine Len thread that's quite successful as well.

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I disagree with saying that traps are necessarily looking exactly like women just plus the cock.

Women with cock are called futanari, not traps. There's a difference.
There's a gosh darn freaking Lelouch thread on /tr/. And a Kagamine Len thread that's quite successful as well.


yes traps are trap because SUPRISE IM A MAN but whn you look for futanari your looking for the cock.
 
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I don't think there is a difference between enjoying an anime crossdressing and a real life crossdressing. Furthermore, I think the anime one is more "real" than the latter, in terms of sexual indentity and erotic arousal, for it is "unreal" and therefore free of social boundaries and guilt. As long as this difference remains, there will always be hatred and intolerance for those kind of "deviations".
Does crossdressing bear a homosexual mark? If we consider that sexual attraction, behavior and identity do NOT have to be the same it appears to be nonsense. Crossdressing can be linked to any other sexual orientation as well (note there is not only hetero and homo, but infinite gradations in between).
There is no "general" in here, because each person's sexual attraction, behavior and identity are formed on another way, influenced by the social network, childhood, experience on a different scale. The final outcome is going to determine (there is no choice there, really) what reason they enjoy that kind of things for.
 
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I don't think there is a difference between enjoying an anime crossdressing and a real life crossdressing. Furthermore, I think the anime one is more "real" than the latter, in terms of sexual indentity and erotic arousal, for it is "unreal" and therefore free of social boundaries and guilt. As long as this difference remains, there will always be hatred and intolerance for those kind of "deviations".
Does crossdressing bear a homosexual mark? If we consider that sexual attraction, behavior and identity do NOT have to be the same it appears to be nonsense. Crossdressing can be linked to any other sexual orientation as well (note there is not only hetero and homo, but infinite gradations in between).
There is no "general" in here, because each person's sexual attraction, behavior and identity are formed on another way, influenced by the social network, childhood, experience on a different scale. The final outcome is going to determine (there is no choice there, really) what reason they enjoy that kind of things for.


I will let ukonikivic expliain why this is wrong im too tired.
 
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Thanks for the information.
I consider myself blessed.
 
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well, I say everyone is at least partially gay, for everyone SHOULD love themselves, which puts at least a 1% gay in everyone. now, to the original post, if you are fully aware it is a trap, but you go at it anyway, I'd say that you have some Bi in you. now if it's that you don't know it's a trap, and you find out it is and scream like heyl, then you are mostly straight. 99% straight. that is my argument in the matter.
 
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I disagree with saying that traps are necessarily looking exactly like women just plus the cock.


It's largely true in anime traps, though. There is nothing in the way of facial structure, adams apple, or any other real-life giveaways that need to be overcome, and the animators can easily design an androgynous body destined for trap-dom. And if the picture is not apart of a series cannon, then nothing is stopping them from just creating a woman and labeling it a trap, maybe adding buldge or something.
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I'll make this short:

If you're turned on by the pic the op posted, regardless of knowing its a trap or not, you're fine.

If you're turned on by Porilin (Crystal Blaze/Glass Maiden), then you have something to worry about.
 
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And if you're not turned on by it?

 
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