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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Shiro: Aina, I have to kill your brother! Aina: Goodbye, Brother.. THAT was something I was not expecting. o.o I was awaiting some passionate pep talk that would hopefully 'bring her brother back', or something... This was definitely a plus. ^_^ This episode really felt like it was the last one. It even had an exclusive ending. And it said "the end". Is episode 12 an extra? Anyway, if this is the end, talk about weak... although I did like that it wasn't a "and they lived happy ever after" sort of ending, seeing as the guy lost a leg, but it wasn't nothing grand either... |
ArcanusJul 28, 2009 4:49 AM
| i rememberd this ending the most out of any gundam series. lol crazy... and ep 12 is the banned ep that takes the pov of war orphans or something . its basically tacked on so you could get a sense of after story. i liked the battle scenes. regular non over powered gundams ftw. lol kinda why i like the grahms modified custom flag from 00. lol |
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| for me it was the best epiosde of the entire gundam metaseries. I just loved it. It wasn neither a very sad ending nor a happy one. It was just perfect...you really understand how meaningless is a person in the hundreds of milions of persons involved in a war. |
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| Wow, why do people hate mecha? This was absolutely fantastic. Looking forward to watch more MSG :) |
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| Ginius went batshit insane towards the end of the series, especially this episode. All for fulfilling his dream. He even tried to kill his own sister! But it was nice that they put up that cross for him, I guess. I was happy to see that Federation commander die, because he ordered to shoot down the med-evac ship and to execute Shiro. I loved this episode... 08th MS Team is such a great anime imo. fatstarr said: I know what you mean. It's always the best when there's no overpowered Gundam on one side destroying everything with a few shots, and when both sides have capable and experienced grunts. I liked those cutting beams that the snipers fired btw.i liked the battle scenes. regular non over powered gundams ftw. Now on to the bonus/epilogue/last/whatever episode! |
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| Oh wow, this was a fantastic episode. Even though most of the ones thus far weren't very dramatic or engaging in my opinion, this is a very good ending. |
| Great episode , and it really should have ended here. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| It's great that they survived and all but how did they do it? |
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| and nobody died, HOW VIETNAM OF THEM... |
| What...why didn't anyone die -.- |
| Um, Ginias died (and countless off the screen soldier) but I guess nobody cares about it. Ending is not flashy or lame either. It got feeling of "live as soldier and die as soldier" but I guess in this case, it's MIA. Also yeah, there goes chance of Ginias being likeable villain. |
| That was Almost perfect I say almost because Aina's pacifist bullshit early on almost ruined the whole thing, those wounded troops could have lived dammit! Well aside from that rather glaring flaw this was a pretty memorable final. |
| That ending was good, albeit it felt just a tad too rushed. If they had only lets say 2 minutes more, I think it would have worked out much better. I'm glad they are still alive. Although it seems Shiro lost a leg? |
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cupc said: Too bad Kiki didn't make it. Love triumphs over beams.That ending was good, albeit it felt just a tad too rushed. If they had only lets say 2 minutes more, I think it would have worked out much better. I'm glad they are still alive. Although it seems Shiro lost a leg? |
| I found the episode okay; the last one is still the best. Considering I don't like Shiro or Aina, I don't really give a crap about their ideals and that they lived. If Aina had killed her brother earlier (or not brought him along), she could of possibly avoided the death of that ship. Oops. The animation was top-notch this episode and easily the best thing of this entire show. |
| I don't get it... if this is the end then what the hell is episode 12¿ |
| Good end. Even though this whole mess could've all been avoided if Aina had left her bro out of the Apsalus... ah, nevermind. Dunno what episode 12 is supposed to be, considering that one gave a perfect closure to show. Let's see. |
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| The ending was a bit abrupt yes but I would still say this is one of the most incredible finales and endings to one of the best shows iv seen in a while. The characters were all very real feeling with a ton of depth and even development to almost all of them. While its first half was a tad bit slow and sometimes dull, it's 2nd half had a near perfect pacing that was constantly thrilling and captivating displaying great execution of its themes, hell in many regards i think this series topped the original gundam's theme of humanity in both sides of a war. Admittedly there are some flaws with this series, I do think the transition between episodes felt very jarring and many times i felt like i missed a episode before it or missed an extra scene after the credits that never were actually there. The transition between scenes sometimes shared this problem but no where near as bad, it did have a slow start as stated before but that is made up by the incredible 2nd half This definitely ranks up there as one of the best gundams, 9/10 |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I'm a bit confused here. Is this the ending ? If it is then why is there a 12th episode ??? |
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xAvengerx said: I'm so glad I watched all of the ending credits for this ep, I would've had no idea if I didn't..It's great that they survived and all but how did they do it? |
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| Welp, it should have ended right here instead. ep 12 i so much filler. |
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| Break a leg! Guess it did. This episode is marvellous, so to speak. I am really glad it didn't en up being some sort of pacifistic bullcrap in the midst of a bloodthirsty war, and even though slightly unrealistic, Shiro and Aina survived in the final push-turns-to-shove duel with her brother. In the end, Shiro's still the immature boy who'd rather forget about his past to elope with a woman. Talking about real irresponsibility. Well, another episode to pack up on things for real. I wonder what is in store for us viewers. 5/5 |
| "If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria Just kidding.  |
| Amazing episode, but kinda hard to believe both Shiro and Aina survived. First she got shot point blank, okay her pocket watched saved her, yet she was fried by the beam which is not a normal flame thrower and it would have cooked her body and would have died from the extreme heat. Shiro get's blasted by a beam point blank as well as falling with the debris with Ginias. It explodes, but miraculously survives :O I'm not really surprised why Aina wanted his brother dead. His sanity died a long time ago, and only thing that keeps him alive is that damn Apsalus. The Federation commander also dies as well due to impact of the beam. Damn i don't want to see Shiro in handicapped :( Looks like there's one more episode. Karen seems to have regret her decision to turn her gun onto him. I do hope they see Shiro in the end. Last episode T___T |
4/5 The series was good thanks to its settings, various environments, the battles and it looked very good. The MS drawings were all shining but the character-design of the main characters felt... not right for the style of the show (I love the chara-design of Cowboy Bebop though). The first episodes were interesting mission-wise but the characters focus never got me, like I said before I never cared about them (maybe because of 0079?). And Kiki was uselessly annoying except right before she vanished. I had no particular expectation when I started it after The Origin because its chronology pointed out its side-story nature and the lack of scale was both a good and a bad point (bad, because when the story is not grand enough, you should try harder to make something compelling of your characters) 6-6.5/10 Now, I have some hopes about the extra episode since the preview mentionned the Flanagan Institute (sadly only briefly mentioned in MSG) September 12, 2017 @Faederwulf I'm pretty sure most fictions around soldiers follow at least one failing to follow his duty. |
Rei_IIIJun 5, 2021 4:18 PM
| Amazijg, simply amazing episode, can't wait to see the little extra episode :) |
| Good series. Great ending! I wonder what the final episode will be? |
| Who the hell shoots their own sister! For a moment there I really thought they'd kill of Aina at the last moment just like in the original series! But damn what an episode I'm actually glad Aina isn't death! Really intense episode in general and a perfect ending for this series but well let's see what happens in the last episode! |
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| Eleventh episode, and last of series, althought have a special, the 12th. This episode was a very dramatic, more action but importants deaths, because the war is the war, anyone win, all are losers. The best of episode, are the last 15 seconds, where we can intuit two knows shadows!!! |
| Guiness was one psychotic asshole. Glad he is gone. And did Shiro lose his leg? |
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| That was ass. All this bs with shiro and aina is making me appreciate Iron Blooded Orphans. |
| Good ending overall, but not without its deus ex machinas, I guess. It would've been really better to let either Aina die from that gunshot, or from the beam at least. That survival was just ridiculous, do you really just jump away of a huge heat beam point blank and survive? Ugh. And even the third time the writers decided to give the main characters plot armor. Jeez, I get why one might want to keep the mains alive, but there're times when killing of a character or two is both more logical and impactful, it's just the case here. It was a bit softened by the fact that Shiro was de-facto dead for his team (they never met again), but eh. Him and Aina dying would've been better. Oh, and I guess Aina could've died four times actually, I don't think that falling from that ridiculous height on a piece of metal (I presume Gundam's hand is metal) comes without consequences. At least she should've been injured. And given how this is the final episode, I'm really disappointed that Kiki was just dropped. She slowly gained my affection throught the show and was good in her final episode, I kinda wanted to see her again. Also sad that Karen never got her spotlight episode. Literally every single member of the team got one, yet the best girl Karen didn't. She was way better than both Michel and Sanders yet got overlooked in the end. She even dropped a line about Shiro being the worst soldier she's ever met, implying some backstory about her traumatic experiences dealing with soldiers, losing her husband due to some accident...But nope she doesn't deserve anything. All in all, I enjoyed the episode, but I could've enjoyed it a lot more if right decisions were made (at least to my taste). P.S. What about Aina's revenge for Norris? Was there any point at all in showing her that angry in ep.10? Nothing came out of it. P.P.S. At least we got to see that the Federation is just as abhorrent as Zeon in terms of the higher-ups, with captain Ryer sending the 07th MS team to their death, execution orders etc. It's an obvious truth in reality, but I'm at least glad that we got to see that in Gundam too. No good sides in war. |
St0rmbladeApr 10, 2020 4:01 PM
| Wow, what an ending or i think it is Aina, Shiro.....that sure was interesting Shiro lost his leg(unexpected) ''then we'll share the burden together'' btw wats with that somber endig song, gundam sure knows how to bring em up |
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| Well, that was dogshit. "This is war!" "AMMM AKCHUALLY THIS IS ABOUT MUH FEELING!" You know the main cast is retarded when the only sane man here is the mad scientist guy. Everything I heard about this anime was a lie. Vietnam inspired my ass. The horrors of war my ass. Real portrayal of soldiers my ass. The first half of the series was a light-hearted guerrilla action in the jungle And the second half is a cringey romance Exactly as the big brother said, this is a fucking war goddammit! Thousands die every day on both sides! What distinguishes these two people from the others? Why should I care about the stupid romance between these two Insignificant soldiers? Meh so far this is the most overrated Gundam. 4/10 +1 for high production value 5/10. I do not think I will bother with episode 12 |
TheRestlessOneApr 3, 2021 6:05 PM
| I dont know what to think of this. Would have been amazing if it was a proper double cour, or atleast full 12 eps. First half felt like weekly "we need to fill the episodes with something" while the second was rushed as if it was a OVA/special to an already existing story. The entire Kiki plot just sort of ended and after that the story turned a bit less childish but also more preachy. It certainly is different enough from most other Gundam shows to stand out. Atleast I think among the pacifist MC characters Shiro and Aina stand out because they still do whats necessary and dont rely on some plot convenience, power of love, "newtype" mind crush. And some Federation officers were scum which is good for the UC overall. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Aina's brother has finally been killed, and it appears that Shiro and Aina have survived, but it looks like Shiro has lost his right leg. I wonder what will happen in the final episode. |
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| I love the romance in this Gundam, it feels so genuine unlike Zeta. |
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| Yet another idiotic pacifist in Gundam... Aina was a non-character to begin with and still all her character development came down to being a preaching pacifist bitch with brain damage. She might be even worse than Banagher. For shame. A character shot through the heart at close range miraculously lives...because the bullet landed on the locket on her chest. Give me a break. How many times do I have to see this idiocy in fiction? I hoped to give the episode 5/5 up until the eyecatch, but in the end it's 2/5 from me. Recynon said: I'm not going to talk about the characters, plot, style, charm, and setting because I don't think there's much talk about but what I'm interested in is the question of what makes an anti-war message compelling? The most compelling anti-war message I've seen in Gundam is still from Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket. |
kari-yaNov 13, 2021 7:37 AM
Recynon said: chi4ko said: The most compelling anti-war message I've seen in Gundam is still from Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket. Please elaborate People Die When They Are Killed |
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