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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- For a moment, I thought that soldier that was trembling was going to cry... that would have been fun :p Anyway, the main character shows the usual main-character-symptoms for a Gundam series: naive ideals and no power to make them come true, yet running his mouth about them to his superiors. And here I was hoping he was smarter than that... *shakes head* Despite that, I actually enjoyed this episode. I specially liked that the resistance was not moved by Shiro's words and went ahead to finish off the Zakus. I liked it even more that it was Shiro the one who got the honor of the kill. That should teach him how weak his ideals are. |
ArcanusJul 27, 2009 1:02 PM
| That's what I love Gundams for! Great episode, the best one so far. |
| Amazing episode! This battle was very good, and I hope it helps Shiro to develop as a character. The best thing about this battle was that It could be avoided, If it wasn't for the foolishness of some villagers. |
| I posted a long rant in episode 7 about how Shiro was as terrible a character as Kirito from SAO because he's so inconsistent and nothing bad ever happens to him. It's like they heard me or something... |
Arcanus said: Anyway, the main character shows the usual main-character-symptoms for a Gundam series: naive ideals and no power to make them come true, yet running his mouth about them to his superiors. And here I was hoping he was smarter than that... *shakes head* Despite that, I actually enjoyed this episode. I specially liked that the resistance was not moved by Shiro's words and went ahead to finish off the Zakus. I liked it even more that it was Shiro the one who got the honor of the kill. That should teach him how weak his ideals are. Shiro while having naive ideals (I swear, this Shiro also...), he is for god's sake a commander of a unit. It's accomplishment of his own and his rising in power I'd say. Or what? He should be on hax mobile suit while having hax abilities? |
| Damn, this was a good one. I like how well they portrayed how a town gets destroyed to ashes by just a few Mobile Suits. |
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| One thing I liked the most about this episode is that it showed that the Federation aren't the good guys that other Gundams tend to make them seem. Some of the crusty old judges, one guard laughing, and the Zeon lady really shows that while our main character is a good guy, the side he's on necessarily isn't. Otherwise, about time the guerrillas and Shiro get a reality check. |
Sakarii said: It definitely ramps it up, and while the Feds are often the 'protagonists' in other shows, it has always depicted the politicians, generals, and such as inefficient and corrupt. General Revil excepted of course.One thing I liked the most about this episode is that it showed that the Federation aren't the good guys that other Gundams tend to make them seem. Some of the crusty old judges, one guard laughing, and the Zeon lady really shows that while our main character is a good guy, the side he's on necessarily isn't. |
| Excellent episode. The way the guerrillas killed that first Zeon pilot was pure epicness. |
| Well, that episode totally makes up for the disappointment that the last couple eps have been: it was just... great. I really enjoyed the fact that things didn't go as planned for Shiro and that he finally get a well needed reality check. Hell, even Kiki managed to make me feel bad for her, that's saying something. Highlight of the ep. was probably his trial and how the offs just burst out laughing: not sure that would happen during an actual RL trial, but it sure did a excellent job showing how naive & unrealistic Shiro's ideals are. Best episode so far, and hoping the shows keeps that level of quality. EDIT: Goddamit dat animation |
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| out of the entire universal century i consider this episode to be up there as one of the best, the only other episode i think i liked more was the last episode of war in the pocket |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Another Yoshiko Sakakibara appearance in Gundam (that's not listed here for some reason) was a pleasant surprise to my ears. I was really happy those dudes laughed at him in the court room, ended up making me crack up a bit too. Anyway, this was a good episode. Probably the first one that was really well balanced in both great action and good character moments. |
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| What a great episode. This time Shiro really tried to reason with the enemy and the guerrillas but he failed. The way he dodged that bullet..... Could he be a Newtype? |
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| Best episode yet. The portrayal of war is uncannily resembling to what we would consider as a guerrilla warfare. In the end, those people are just driven by the desire to completely annihilate their enemies, at the expense of rationality and disclosure. Had they consider to force the Zeons to surrender, and act practically in face of small threatsm the situation would not have resulted in the deaths of anyone. 5/5 |
| "If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria Just kidding.  |
| Great episode! I also think this is the best one. Showed the consequences of war, Kiki's father dying which is still stupid. Why would you fire a rocket launcher in front of a booster who's already preparing to take off??! That's just stupid way to die tbh. WTF Aina's brother is one crazy motherfucker. At least we know why the characters never appeared in 079 since he's project was abandoned midway. And wow the female commando is voiced by Yoshiko Sakakibara. She's pretty much been with every Gundam series so far. Haman Karn, Nanai Miguel, commander in Stardust Memory etc. Still the guerrilla were crazy. Willing to do everything just to avenge their fallen comrades. When Shiro killed that female commando, blood was dripping from the Zaku. I thought that was disturbing as hell and if they added more scenes like that in the main series, it would have been better and much more darker. I'm glad that stupid soldier got paid. Rocket in the face bitch! I wonder if Kiki will appear in future episodes? I do hope so. Either way, can't wait for the next episode! |
| Best episode yet. Might be the turning point where the series becomes good. |
Ckan said: Sakarii said: It definitely ramps it up, and while the Feds are often the 'protagonists' in other shows, it has always depicted the politicians, generals, and such as inefficient and corrupt. General Revil excepted of course.One thing I liked the most about this episode is that it showed that the Federation aren't the good guys that other Gundams tend to make them seem. Some of the crusty old judges, one guard laughing, and the Zeon lady really shows that while our main character is a good guy, the side he's on necessarily isn't. Until Yasuhiko decided to make his version of the past events of the war: Revil was freed from Zeon by none other than Degwin himself in an attempt to prevent a large scale armed conflict to happen. Degwin thought an armistice was still possible but Revil made his "Zeon is exhausted" speech as soon as he came back to Earth, leading to a furious and deceived Degwin letting the war break. (I find this version really good, especially since how he lectures his son several times after Garma's death). Anyway, the Federation was never all pink even in the first series, not even civilians were (some parts didn't survive in the movie). Starting on the 0079 mutual understanding, this episode is the best of the series so far. I was a bit skeptical about Shiro's transformation (180º change of mind again xD) but it waseffective to deliver the needed Gundam feeling I missed in the previous OAVs. Kiki could finally be relevant as an opposition to Shiro's newfound desire, the conflict between his ideal (+ the Zeon soldiers goal) and the guerrillero's lack of rationality was great with a well-chosen conclusion (no side wins) the right one. I would certainly rate the show higher if the rest followed the tendency but based on the preview, we're back at the initial "soldier of the week" format in the next episode (Karen did not get her OAV after all). Sadly it will be even more annoying if they intertwine it with this stupid attraction of Eleonore for her. 5/5 edit: interesting how the experimental center became the last stand of the Zeon Earth Forces after most of them were blown out or flew to space at Odessa. Far less appealing, the fact the final villain looks like a pretty face psychopath full of himself (and probably perverse, based on his will to "control" his sister). Too "one-sided" |
Rei_IIIMar 26, 2016 8:55 AM
| Definitely the best episode so far! |
| Damn show you gettin good! I'm really pleasantly surprised how much this show has improved with each of the past few episodes. |
| Damn what an episode :/ all those deaths and wounded! Really intense yet quite sad :( let's see what happens next! |
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| Bad day for the guerrilla!!! |
| What an episode! More than a good Gundam episode, it was a great warfare episode, with desperate tactics and madness. War is hell. |
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| I think that was the best episode of the series, Shiro went full pacifist and people paid for it. |
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| After watching the first 6 episodes, I wonder why this show has a relatively high score, it was boring as hell.. But after 2 good episodes, I can understand it a bit ... The story telling maybe is not really good, but this is really a sad story, they were killed for nothing just because one stupid and terrible soldier ... |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| My favourite episode of the OVA so far. Loved that toxic exchange at the bar, though I wish I could see the actual fight! The village scene with Zakus was pure suspense though. I even wanted them to simply take their food and just go away, but that one cocky pilot ruined everything. But damn, that first kill was epic as hell. The commander of that small Zaku group could even be a protagonist of her own for a similar Zeon side story, in theory. Everything else was tragic, and this episode is probably the best one to show that war is freaking horrible for everybody. Those last moments of the woman pilot were pure agony, and Shiro's ideals got shaken. Very hard dilemma this guy faced, indeed. |
| Shiro's empathy almost got him killed, but it also proves that he's grown as a human being. He wanted to be able to save those Zeon pilots as well, but it wasn't possible. |
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| The villagers were pretty stupid if you ask me. If they just waited a bit, most people would have been alive. Heh, the other two were escaping even after Arth was killed, the villagers shouldn't have attacked. My favourite scene was Shiro defeating that Zaku without using a Gundam! |
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| Haha, as if Shiro just dodged a fucking Zaku rifle at that close range twice! Fuck off with that "realism", he's basically a Newtype with a stunt like that. I was enjoying this episode too up until that point, or to be more exact until the point where his out-of-nowhere pacifism came out again after randomly emerging last episode. |
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| very wonderful episode, it was truly excellent. |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
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| Shiro tried. That was sad, the true brutality of war. |
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