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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I'm kind of surprised that nobody made a topic yet... Sweat-dropping ensues! So this time he murders a mother and a child while pretending to be a hobo. And I noticed that the negotiations didn't go well, so does that mean they fight for Madison Square or something now? Eh, the questions. Anyways I think this will three possible endings for Zwei (or any combination of the three): 1) He dies or something that marks his end of being on Phantom's side and she gets a new apprentice 2) He gets out of the Inferno business alone with/without all his memories restored as his life goes back into being a normal one 3) He somehow gets the 2nd ending but with the Ein this time |
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| that assassination of the wife and son was cold-blooded |
| facepalm really, there are code of conduct in the mafia world too... They do not pity potential enemy, even if he is a child....But really, they should kill the family AFTER they actually kill Tony NOT before. That was a huge mistake....NEVER underestimate someone who has lost everything.... |
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| Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Nice episode. That was some dumb move by the Melanie Square. You never mess up with the Inferno, bitches! |
Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. |
gameoffreak8 said: Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. Seconded. |
| Powerful episode.. I got breathless waiting for Zwei to shoot the mother and child. For a moment, I thought he was going to lower his but he didn't! Oh I bet he hates Inferno now. +1 for this show. |
| Signature? I ain't got no signature! I don't need no signature! I don't have to show you any stinkin' signature! |
| That was a dickhead move on Inferno's part. You don't do that, mafia or moral based. It's not proper. Why do I get a sense of a "I have to escape from this organization, but in order to do so, I must fight the one who taught me everything" feeling coming up in the later episodes. Lets see what ep6+ brings. |
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mwgriffin said: werr-y said: gameoffreak8 said: Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. Seconded. Thirded? (if that's possible) Fourthed... or something. Zwei killing the wife and child like that sent a chill down my spine, this anime doesn't mess around. |
| Although in real life, murdering an innocent child and wife is wrong, immoral, sinful, and just plain sad.. I think in an anime and nothing else it is exceptable considering it makes good a good plot and character progress, also it leaves us with something to actually think about. So, Requiem for the Phantom is doing a perfect job at demonstrating the fucked up world we live in. |
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| Really awesome episode, this series is really showing potential to be one of my faves. Has anyone else noticed how amazing the score is for this anime, the music made the final scenes in this episode far more intense. |
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nicoliolipoli said: Although in real life, murdering an innocent child and wife is wrong, immoral, sinful, and just plain sad.. I think in an anime and nothing else it is exceptable considering it makes good a good plot and character progress, also it leaves us with something to actually think about. So, Requiem for the Phantom is doing a perfect job at demonstrating the fucked up world we live in. ditto I definitely agree on how fucked up our world is. |
Phoenix117 said: mwgriffin said: werr-y said: gameoffreak8 said: Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. Seconded. Thirded? (if that's possible) Fourthed... or something. Zwei killing the wife and child like that sent a chill down my spine, this anime doesn't mess around. Fifthed? lol i guess its to be expected with all the hints that the episode left that many people (including myself) would think this. Also dang... i mean i knew it was coming but that was cold blooded, it got to second for the chill, it really did send a chill when the kid innocently looked at Zwei after his mom died and everyone (except prolly him[the kid]) knew what was coming next. |
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nicoliolipoli said: He's already in hell!!Although in real life, murdering an innocent child and wife is wrong, immoral, sinful, and just plain sad. |
| I wish they would've shown him shooting the kid |
KeiranShikari said: Really awesome episode, this series is really showing potential to be one of my faves. And it did, back for the rewatch. |
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| What a shitty plan. If they'd just proven that it was easy for them to get in, or just kidnap his family, they would have had a negotiation point. Now they're going to have to kill all of Tony's people just to get the square. I mean what are they going to threaten to do, kill his son again? |
| Argh, suchs for the son and wife. :( |
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InfiniteDestiny said: Phoenix117 said: mwgriffin said: werr-y said: gameoffreak8 said: Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. Seconded. Thirded? (if that's possible) Fourthed... or something. Zwei killing the wife and child like that sent a chill down my spine, this anime doesn't mess around. Fifthed? lol i guess its to be expected with all the hints that the episode left that many people (including myself) would think this. Also dang... i mean i knew it was coming but that was cold blooded, it got to second for the chill, it really did send a chill when the kid innocently looked at Zwei after his mom died and everyone (except prolly him[the kid]) knew what was coming next. Sixthed. He really killed the kid. It is rare to find a main character so cold. Im loving this show. |
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| Ms. McCunnen = HOT.....nuff said |
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Glub said: InfiniteDestiny said: Phoenix117 said: mwgriffin said: werr-y said: gameoffreak8 said: Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. Seconded. Thirded? (if that's possible) Fourthed... or something. Zwei killing the wife and child like that sent a chill down my spine, this anime doesn't mess around. Fifthed? lol i guess its to be expected with all the hints that the episode left that many people (including myself) would think this. Also dang... i mean i knew it was coming but that was cold blooded, it got to second for the chill, it really did send a chill when the kid innocently looked at Zwei after his mom died and everyone (except prolly him[the kid]) knew what was coming next. Sixthed. He really killed the kid. It is rare to find a main character so cold. Im loving this show. Seventhed. Watching Zwei kill the mother and child was sad. |
| Damn, this was a pretty intense episode. |
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TowardsTheStars said: Glub said: InfiniteDestiny said: Phoenix117 said: mwgriffin said: werr-y said: gameoffreak8 said: Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. Seconded. Thirded? (if that's possible) Fourthed... or something. Zwei killing the wife and child like that sent a chill down my spine, this anime doesn't mess around. Fifthed? lol i guess its to be expected with all the hints that the episode left that many people (including myself) would think this. Also dang... i mean i knew it was coming but that was cold blooded, it got to second for the chill, it really did send a chill when the kid innocently looked at Zwei after his mom died and everyone (except prolly him[the kid]) knew what was coming next. Sixthed. He really killed the kid. It is rare to find a main character so cold. Im loving this show. Seventhed. Watching Zwei kill the mother and child was sad. Eighthed lol I love the soundtrack in this anime. Really fitting the visuals and the story. Great episode again. 4/5 |
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Hyunckel said: TowardsTheStars said: Glub said: InfiniteDestiny said: Phoenix117 said: mwgriffin said: werr-y said: gameoffreak8 said: Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. Seconded. Thirded? (if that's possible) Fourthed... or something. Zwei killing the wife and child like that sent a chill down my spine, this anime doesn't mess around. Fifthed? lol i guess its to be expected with all the hints that the episode left that many people (including myself) would think this. Also dang... i mean i knew it was coming but that was cold blooded, it got to second for the chill, it really did send a chill when the kid innocently looked at Zwei after his mom died and everyone (except prolly him[the kid]) knew what was coming next. Sixthed. He really killed the kid. It is rare to find a main character so cold. Im loving this show. Seventhed. Watching Zwei kill the mother and child was sad. Eighthed lol I love the soundtrack in this anime. Really fitting the visuals and the story. Great episode again. 4/5 Nineth. |
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GoldenBRS said: Marzan said: Hyunckel said: TowardsTheStars said: Glub said: InfiniteDestiny said: Phoenix117 said: mwgriffin said: werr-y said: gameoffreak8 said: Moonfrost said: Freaking intense. Zwei turned into a cold blooded beast and kill Tony's wife and son! Ms. McCunnen is also freaking hot and I think that she has a thing on Zwei. Ein is probably getting jealous since Zwei always go to McCunnen's house. Ditto. Seconded. Thirded? (if that's possible) Fourthed... or something. Zwei killing the wife and child like that sent a chill down my spine, this anime doesn't mess around. Fifthed? lol i guess its to be expected with all the hints that the episode left that many people (including myself) would think this. Also dang... i mean i knew it was coming but that was cold blooded, it got to second for the chill, it really did send a chill when the kid innocently looked at Zwei after his mom died and everyone (except prolly him[the kid]) knew what was coming next. Sixthed. He really killed the kid. It is rare to find a main character so cold. Im loving this show. Seventhed. Watching Zwei kill the mother and child was sad. Eighthed lol I love the soundtrack in this anime. Really fitting the visuals and the story. Great episode again. 4/5 Nineth. Tenth Really hated that Ms. McCunnen made Zwei to kill that child. 3/5 Eleventhed just for the luls. It really gave a dark undertone to the series. It was a bad act, but actually made me like the series even more. |
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| This is what I want to see from a Seinen. As heart-wrenching as it was, this is sometimes reality. I am in no way going to bash Zwei, he doesn't have a fucking choice. Also, you can tell he's not feeling anything when his eyes are dilated, that's the only way he can get through all of this; to become "Zwei" is the only way he can avoid the horrors of being "Zwei". Oh yeah, Ms. McCunnen is brilliant. She's awesome at being playful (and hot!), then she's awesome at being a boss the next second. I hope she sticks around. Her bodyguard is pretty cool too. 5/5, please keep this pace up. |
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| Man, why do they always have to be next to a window? Don't they know windows are dangerous? D=. |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
| Why inferno want the wife and son to be killed ? What do they achieve by doing this ? I used to like Zwei, but now I hate him. He killed a child and innocent mother with a cool blood. |
| Wow people still wondering why Zwei killed the mother and child?... Uh HELLO... HE'S BRAINWASHED! Inferno simply gave Tony a decision/test What is more important to you? Melanie Square or your family? Tony chose Melanie Square, so therefore Melanie Square was more important than his family and payed the utter price. |
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DarkShards said: Man, why do they always have to be next to a window? Don't they know windows are dangerous? D=. I know right. It took all of those guard awhile too figure out there's a sniper. I would've tried to hide behind something after the first two people were shot down instead of just standing there and looking around, shocked. Of course the other side would be prepared to fight back too. Tony was a little too confident about how things would turn out. Zwei and his eyes. Definitely looked scary at the end...his eyes are as lifeless Ein, instead they look like the eyes of a killing machine (not that I know what that looks like..but I would think it looks like Zwei's). |
| Awesome episode, just awesome... the atmosphere.. I am speechless. Great one! |
| That was some cold-blooded shit. To kill a mother and a child... Zwei eyes were weird. It looked like he was on hypnosis. Maybe it's just a self-defense to fell no remorse. But I don't think that their real goal was the Madison Square or whatever it was named. They wouldn't have left him alive if it was. I think their real goal was to show the entire mafia that if someone refused them something, they are ready to go as far as to kill every member of their family. It wasn't about the prize, it was about the message. That ensure that the next family might not do the same error. That blond girl definitely have some interrest on Zwei. And by interrest, I mean sexual interrest :P |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| I appreciate that Zwei actually killed the wife and child, but it really tried way too hard to make the mob boss likable and as with every episode so far, it's kind of slow and doesn't really have that much going on. |
| that Claudia is one smokin hot babe.. Zwei killed a mother and her child.. well I kind of expecting that |
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| Oh wow that ending! That sure was fucked up but totally awesome! The amount of feel put into that was certainly epic! |
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| damn that was ruthless o_o that OST made that scene all the more powerful |
| oh god.. this really broke my limit. :'0 whyyyyy ? that child.... was smiling... didn't know shit even when his mom was murdered in front of him. I can feel you Zwei.. that was ruthless. Hmmm.. well I have to admit Claudia is really the woman. *thumbs up* |
ahxiian said: oh god.. this really broke my limit. :'0 whyyyyy ? that child.... was smiling... didn't know shit even when his mom was murdered in front of him. I can feel you Zwei.. that was ruthless. That scene was brutal. The OST made it even more chilling. I was expecting Zwei to be waiting in the room for the farther and then kill him too but I guess not. Claudia is one deceiving women. I don't rust her. She saw Zwei like that and didn't even bat an eyelid. Is she tougher than Ein or something? |
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| So he killed a mother and son this time, fucking intense. Did zwei and MCcunnen had sex in the last scene? hugging and then turning off the lights is kinda suggestive. |
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| bam, sold his soul. |
| holy dam Intense episode I sense jealousy building of Ein over Zwei and how he's being treated even though she was the first and his personal trainer Kind of messed up on how the child and mother had to die but I guess thats what makes this show a little more mature and not some shounen blond lady wants the D |
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| Dang, he shot the kid! He became one cold mofo. Mafia dude only has himself to blame for this. Inferno warned him and hinted a few times that they would go after his family if he didn't get off his high horse. |
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