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| This was pretty confusing. The ending managed to explain most of it, though it still feel like somethings are still vague (I'm still not sure who killed the photographer, Mima, Rumi or the stalker or if he even got killed). For a while, I was wondering if the teleporting creepy stalker actually existed. Of course, considering the point of view, some of his appearance might not even have actually happened. Still a good story overall. |
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| This blowed my mind. I didn't expect that. The parallel between the movie in the movie and the reality in the movie... |
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| Oh god. That was intense. That was so much for my little stupid head to take. Now I am in a confusion about reality. The writer really knows how to play with your mind. Have to rewatch more than once to understand which scenes were real, and which ones were her imagination. Anyways, Overall Rating - 8/10. |
-AcheronOct 13, 2022 10:50 PM
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| sigh it would be a crime for me to not rate this movie a perfect 10. perfect blue as the name suggests is perfect mind-blowing piece of media i have ever watched. sometimes i was like rewinding some scenes continiously to get a grip of what was going on, it was this level of messy but managed to bind the plot. not to mention those transitions in between the scenes which left me in awe. first half was a slow burn but after that the way in second half, movie picks up is just insane level of writing. |
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| Poor Mima struggled in this rat race industry. The moment she leaves her idol group, they strike gold, and to prove her worth, she even agrees to do a rape scene as a side character in some movies. Throughout the movie, she is slowly losing her sanity. She's at conflict with herself and her choices and on top of that, that fucking creep is out there to ruin her life even more. It's scary to think people like this actually exist and are in desperate need of professional help. Did she already have dissociative identity disorder or did she develop it after going through such a hard time in her life, or was it after taking the role of that character way too seriously? I'm still quite confused as to who actually killed the scriptwriter and the photographer. Did Mima actually kill them or was she hallucinating them? During the end sequence, we see the stalker admit he was the one who killed them. Who was it in reality? Damn, even Tadakoro was killed. The stalker was also killed beside her. I guess Rumi was the one who planned it all. She was the one sending e-mails to the stalker convincing him to do such horrible stuff and in the end, she was the one who killed him. I guess then she was also the one who killed the other 2 guys. Wtf was that with Rumi in the end? She was also suffering from dissociative identity disorder? I guess it was persona from when she was still a pop idol. Whew, that was a ride. I honestly, didn't understand every little detail, but damn, this was a good watch. There was so much to unpack and all of it still felt so natural. Great anime. 8/10 |
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| The way they handle Mima's circle of dejavu, and questioning her, or my time life wtf am i watching right there? Then the way they reveal the real culprit behind all of the murder in the end. Truck-kun in action again even close the scene. Tho where the heck everyone goes? Am i watching another circle of a fever dream? But nope, Mima finally found her true self, and its the end. Man, that sure pumps me so much to the point that if this movie comes from a nowadays era, it'll be perfectly nice and well done like what has happen with OnK case. Not my intend to compare both but... All in all, this is a perfect warming-up place before watching the 'first' ranking anime that currently airs on this season, when i write this message. After all, the story about the entertainment industry never fails to amaze me, no matter what's era its create and the reason where the ruckus takes place. So yeah, keep your heads up and be yourself! |
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| this movie really plays around with your mind, I watched this in the AM lol |
| Excellent movie! That was good mindf*cking! I didn't expect Rumi to be the mastermind in driving Mima to insanity just because she decided to pursue a different career. I initially thought that both Rumi & Me-mania were Mima's alternate personalities and that all that was happening in the movie were fabrications of her worsening mental health. After all, working in the entertainment industry is mentally taxing. I didn't expect Rumi to be the killer. I thought it was Mima's stalker fanatic or one of her personalities. Also, that explains why Mima's fansite was so accurate with her day-to-day movements since Rumi was always with her. That was a great plot twist! The only thing that bothers me is how a fatso like Rumi could chase Mima on those rooftops. I also enjoyed the "Mima's r*pe" scene! I wish a Hentai existed with that level of animation quality! Mima's boudoir photo shoot was so arousing to see! She's so sexy, and I want to lick her armpits so much! She's so yummy! |
| Just finished watching it and after many hours it still is boggling me I guess it makes sense to the thought of Rumi being the pizza delivery, since she went away and isn't there when Mima is having her weird photoshoots, even when going home Rumi wasn't present (as i remember) Might have nightmares bcz of those disturbing scenes... 8/10, the dreaming and waking up r my fav parts And as someone who's been an idol fan for many years, there would always be that creepy fan...Dang, if only Mima pursued to being just a singer not an idol.. |
"Everyone fails sometimes But dreams won't fade, dreams won't fade Let's chase them as many times as it takes and don't lose Because today after all is today and once you wake up, it'll be a new morning" ~Aqours~ |
| Fucking Rumi... the scene with her crying because she couldn't stand seeing Mima "being raped" made me feel awful and then, by the end of the movie, I realized the crying was actually because she was seeing herself (aka perfect pure Idol Mimarin) in that demeaning situation. Guess she was living through Mima after failing to maintain her own Idol career and Mima's decision of becoming an actress and thus losing that perfect "Idol image" was what kicked Rumi's already existing mental disorder into motion. Captivating movie overall. Heavy as well as truly disturbing for moments and featuring a great sense of visual storytelling. The idea of the story developing through Mima's psychotic POV was fascinating and the constant transitions from hallucination to reality and vice versa had me feeling quite invested from beginning to end. Now that said, I still have some doubts. One being the fact of Rumi being able to jump from rooftop to rooftop in that physical state and the other being related to who the photographer's murderer was. I could simply think it was Rumi but the blood-stained clothes were in Mima's closet... and there is also the fact of Mima "dreaming" about the murder before it was even officially announced in the news. So yeah... I guess I will go with the theory of Mima indeed being his murderer and the police simply assumed Rumi was the culprit without giving it much thought. 8/10 - Very nice movie though you really need to be in a particular mood to watch it. Or at least that's what I think when it comes to heavy psychological thrillers. |
| Rewatched this for the 1st time since the old dvd so it was like all-new to me. Still amazing! 10 icepicks to the balls /10 SouthRzVa said: Now that said, I still have some doubts. One being the fact of Rumi being able to jump from rooftop to rooftop in that physical state and the other being related to who the photographer's murderer was. I could simply think it was Rumi but the blood-stained clothes were in Mima's closet... and there is also the fact of Mima "dreaming" about the murder before it was even officially announced in the news. So yeah... I guess I will go with the theory of Mima indeed being his murderer and the police simply assumed Rumi was the culprit without giving it much thought. I think too many people get hung up on this as there is no 100% proof that it was her dream or vision. Yes, it cuts immediately to her waking up like many before this, which helps sets it up perfectly as a dream. But it just as well could have been non-sequitur and she's just waking up in that moment to progress the story. That said, I firmly believe Rumi is the photographer's killer, as well as all or most of the others. As for the bloody clothes, I think Rumi mistakenly left them behind or was hurried to leave and had to hide them there. She was probably drugging Mima, most likely with the tea (which is why at one point Mima was confused about Rumi visiting the previous day) and so she had to get out before Mima woke up. Right before the murder we see Mima browsing the webpage and seeing photos of her with that exact shopping bag but not remembering going out. So the clothes probably are hers and Rumi stole them to play dress-up for the murder but left them there for some reason. But why was Mima looking at her hands after waking up, as if she just killed someone? Well, a little bit before that she had broken the teacup in her hands so she might have been reliving that trauma (she was pretty out of it at that time too, so perhaps only now it kicked in.) But then again, we don't even know if that's really the photographer's blood. Mima could've been out rolling in the mud in a psychotic daze somewhere while Rumi bought the exact same clothes to imitate her doing the deed. Or simply, Mima was indeed the killer. Anyways, that's what makes this movie so great. Any detail could go in any direction and make sense since they're not so black & white, so go ahead and feel comfortable with whatever you like. |
| "You can't decide the future, but I'm going to re-educate you in the past!" - Erna Kurtz |
| @SlammyHammy It's a matter of interpretation at the end of the day. Personally, I would like to think it was Mima who killed the photographer. Rumi wasn't with her during the photoshoot so neither she nor we know how far things went between them (apparently, too far for Mima's comfort) and the attack itself looked really personal. Getting stabbed in the balls is very symbolic, after all. Especially when it comes to victims of sexual assault taking revenge on their abusers. And not to mention that, from a narrative perspective, having Mima actually killing someone (her being aware of it or not) would add another layer of depth to her character... as well as it being a nice final twist, of course. |
| This was a great film. It really sent me for a loop with Mima and all of her dreams and acting in the show. I wonder how many of those illusions were just Rumi dressed up as pop idol Mima. It's not like Mima could tell the difference. |
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| What a movie to spend Halloween night sitting through. Mind fuckery doesn't even begin to describe the psychological maelstrom this has wrought. It's definitely going to take some re-watches to fully process and interpret the blurred lines between fantasy & reality. Which I'm definitely game for, as I couldn't get enough of this from start to finish. Though, I dread sitting through the "rape" scene again as that was absolutely brutal. It's seldom that rape scenes are this shocking and I found my blood boiling as I squirmed through it. From what I gather, the shock of having to do the scene made Mima feel as though it actually happened, which I think is what really set off the chain reaction of her paranoia & delusions. This definitely has a multitude of layers that peel away the grim realities of the entertainment industry. From stalkers to sleazy producers, Perfect Blue captures the raw essence of a world where all sense of self can be lost. I don't think Me-Mania was entirely wrong when he said that Mima wasn't the real Mima-rin. Then again, he didn't know the real Mima either. Whether as an actress or an idol, Mima ended up being treated as an object of desire and was thoroughly dehumanized by it. I'll probably revise this post later on as I re-watch & recalibrate my interpretation of certain scenes. As of now, however, I believe that the Rumi killed Tadokoro & Me-Mania while Mima killed the director & photographer. In Tadokoro's case, he was set on getting her into acting while Rumi opposed it. Furthermore, Rumi was trying to maintain "protect" Mima's idol image. As for Me-Mania, as satisfying as the hammer time was, I think Rumi went back to finish the job as she finally deemed him a nuisance. With the director & photographer, I believe Mima murdered them as a catharsis to her paranoia & inner rage. The contrast between the humiliation of the photo shoot & the unbridled fury that came with each stab makes it hard to believe this was just Rumi in character. But onto my final point, which is that Mima having blood on her hands would make the ending that much more profound. Rumi goes down for all of the killings. The case is closed and everyone can finally move on. But for Mima, it would serve as a scapegoat for her own mental collapse, giving her unearned clarity by pinning it all on Rumi. It would be the biggest lie she could tell herself and the perfect delusion for continuing to play the role of a tragic heroine who finally has her happy ending. 9/10, though I think this may be 10 material depending on how certain pieces fit together. |
ZekkenshinOct 31, 2023 8:41 PM
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| This was definitely some intense trippy stuff I mean I know Paprika was trippy in terms of what it was going for as a film but I think Perfect Blue has it beat there. There was a lot of things that messed with my head about what was real and what was fiction about the events I saw. I really gotta admire Kon’s craft for storytelling the fact that it was Mima’s associate of Rumi being the real killer threw me for a loop I mean I really thought that it was Me-Mania doing all the murders but much to my shock he wasn’t, he was the red herring in the movie and my god what a twist it was. Rumi essentially made the fan website, knew whatever Mima was doing at the time and deliberately miswrote stuff about her, to make it look like she wasn’t enjoying her new life as an actress to come back to the idol business. I mean it would certainly explain why she’s conveniently with Mima at about the same time as the murders happening. Now I’ve seen many things in my life but I won’t be the only one in saying that the rape scene in the movie, I’m not gonna lie, disturbed me quite literally. I was just watching it with a horrified expression on my face and being like: “Oh dear god…dear god help me…” It was that fucked up a scene, anyways I pretty much understood the vast majority of the movie despite what others are saying about it. But I do feel it needs multiple watches to truly appreciate it, it’s quite the mindfuck but man it’s such a masterpiece from the same mind of Paprika and hard to believe it’s the second thing I’ve watched of Satoshi Kon this film is getting a 9/10 from me. |
| Disappointingly mundane ending when there was room to do something a lot darker and more fitting to core concepts of the story, but the blend of challenging and uncomfortable themes the film serves us up to that point is so potent that it barely even matters - the inescapable sexual undercurrents of adult life and the question of whether a woman is empowered by using her sexuality for professional advancement or is being defiled by having it taken from her (the film explicitly references Jodie Foster who famously played a prostitute at the age of 12, but also feels prescient of the discourse surrounding the Me Too scandal), the loss of self under layers of persona which is perfectly expressed through the film-within-a-film-within-a-film narrative, and traces of the idea of dangerous unconscious suggestion lurking under a seemingly harmless surface which Kon would return to in Paranoia Agent. |
| It's really interesting to watch this a week after Mulholland Drive and notice all the parallels, I bellieve Kon definitely was influenced by Lynch in his work (Even though Mulholland Dr came out later). |
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| So great and so confusing. I'll definitely have to give this a rewatch since there are still some things that I didn't understand all that well. |
| better than paprika imo |
| I have a third testicle that gives me psychic powers |
| This movie probably inspired episode 1 of Oshi no Ko. It's a critique of the idol industry, sure, but it's also about mental health. Its editing is superb. It keeps you guessing which is real and which is illusion, or which scenes are just part if the tv drama. It kind of reminds you of Lain but not as confusing. |
| the artist sure knew how to make the stalker look ugly and dislikable. there are other films in which the characters are depicted as bad or antagonist because their behavior is bad which depiction I like more. |
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