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Aug 19, 2016 5:19 PM

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I really want a mass claim before I start hunting for the cult leader because that's a top priority right now.

_Claire_
wen294
ZTHero
Soren
Karote

These are the only people who are free to not claim.
Aug 19, 2016 5:20 PM

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Oh wait Claire is ded.
Aug 19, 2016 5:21 PM

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Pentaflare - ???
Togs - ???
Rinto-kun - ???
Shadroxx2810 - ???
beeboy - 2-shot deathproof sur\/i\/or
Aug 19, 2016 5:22 PM

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I want the abo\/e filled out
Aug 19, 2016 5:27 PM

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I think Rinto-kun is likely scum o\/er being a cultist.
Which means scum is in {Penta, Togs, Shadroxx}

If I had to aimlessly guess here i would say Shadroxx because he hasn't left much of an impression on me.
I think a mass claim can rule out who can and who can't be the cult leader in a pool that is already kind of small.
Aug 19, 2016 5:37 PM

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I will claim now since I'm pretty much vanilla now. I have yelled out my information so it's up to everyone to listen or not.

Name: Hagakure Yasuhiro
Role: Alignment Cop
Ability: 1.) Investigate a player during the night as town or non-town

As I said, night 1 and 2, I got deny messages pretty much saying "your vision is clouded". Night 3, I got a whole scenario like out of the Lord of the Rings that I posted...
Thing is... I doubt I was even cop. Since bastard mode is on, I suspect soul and jack lied about my role now >.>

Think my ability is "Survive 3 nights and we'll give you a riddle"... >.>
Aug 19, 2016 5:50 PM

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LOL
Aug 19, 2016 6:03 PM

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Wait wait wait.
ZThero you are an alignment cop and didn't counter claim Soren for what reason?
Aug 19, 2016 6:12 PM

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Bee-Boy said:
Wait wait wait.
ZThero you are an alignment cop and didn't counter claim Soren for what reason?


Because I doubt I was even a cop.
Aug 19, 2016 9:16 PM

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\/ote: Shadroxx

oh well let's \/ote my guess since I won't be here for phase change rip me.
Aug 19, 2016 9:51 PM

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I'm pretty sure I've already claimed my role vaguely over a couple posts. Even-day doublevoter. Reflexive flavour cop. I haven't been visited before last night. Been kind of boring.
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Aug 19, 2016 9:57 PM

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Everyone seems to only care about the cult leader right now. I guess it is true that if the cult have managed to convert every night successfully, they will have three, essentially making this a cult version of MyLo.
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Aug 19, 2016 10:01 PM

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The more I think about Bee's claim, the more I think they are lying. The situation Bee proposes would mean having three third party roles in the game. With only 16 players, that seems a little over the top. Additionally, that would make it really difficult for a cult. A full third of the playerbase would be unconvertable (assuming they can't convert mafia or third parties, which 90% of the time is the case).
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Aug 19, 2016 10:02 PM

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Then again, this is coming from the host that put 4 third parties in a 20 player game.
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Aug 19, 2016 10:03 PM

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Actually, I would have to know more about the flavour of this game to really be sure if a deathproof survivor makes sense.
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Aug 19, 2016 10:12 PM

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lynch me 3 times I dare you.
Aug 19, 2016 10:18 PM

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This is how the game looks right now:

Town or Converted
Soren
Karote
wen
ZTHero

wen's investigation confirms them to be town (excluding wen, but that one is obvious). However, this makes them the obvious conversion targets. Two are probably town, two are cultists.

Other Town
Me (Penta)
I would make a poor conversion target because I haven't absolutely confirmed myself as town. In terms of not being the cult leader, my doublevoting ability contradicts that possibility. If you want proof of this, I can break a tie with my doublevote today.

This makes 3 town, 2 cultists, or maybe 4 town, 1 cultist.

This leaves 4 players. If this game has 3 TPRs and Bee isn't lying, that means there would only be 3 mafia and the other 3 players are the cult leader and 2 mafia. If Bee is lying, we probably have 4 mafia, so the remaining players are 3 mafia and 1 cult leader.

{Bee, shad, Togs, Rinto} is the lynch pool.

shad and Togs both replaced players who were inactive on N1. This makes it less likely that their previous players would have submitted the necessary action to cult Gwen. Rinto jailed me last night, which makes it impossible for Rinto to be the cult leader, but makes it almost certain that they are mafia. Therefore, that leaves only one possibility. Bee is lying.

Vote: Bee-Boy
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Aug 19, 2016 10:19 PM

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Bee-Boy said:
lynch me 3 times I dare you.

Will it really take three times, or will you be dead at the end of this phase?
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Aug 19, 2016 10:21 PM

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Another thing to note is that Karote having nothing to show for being doctor this game makes it likely Karote was converted. Most likely target of anyone.
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Aug 19, 2016 11:24 PM

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Ehh so people really want me to mass claim? I would honestly be killed or get a target on my head

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Aug 19, 2016 11:25 PM

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Bee-Boy said:
I think Rinto-kun is likely scum o\/er being a cultist.
Which means scum is in {Penta, Togs, Shadroxx}

If I had to aimlessly guess here i would say Shadroxx because he hasn't left much of an impression on me.
I think a mass claim can rule out who can and who can't be the cult leader in a pool that is already kind of small.


I dont give an impression on anybody.

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Aug 19, 2016 11:26 PM

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PentaFlare said:
Actually, I would have to know more about the flavour of this game to really be sure if a deathproof survivor makes sense.


Whats a deathproof survivor would normally the role be?

I have only seen bulletproof.

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Aug 19, 2016 11:32 PM

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If its lynchproof + bulletproof then thats op as f

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Aug 19, 2016 11:33 PM

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shadroxx2810 said:
Ehh so people really want me to mass claim? I would honestly be killed or get a target on my head


Yes, yes.
Just claim.
Aug 19, 2016 11:44 PM

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Oracle - Fujisaki Chihiro

Ability - I can learn what abilities were used in the night time

- Passive ( A player role will be revealed after i die)

Who i go for at night 2 and 3 was claire
I learn that someone cooked dinner for claire at that night (this was night 2 as claimed by claire)

On night 3 i learned that someone was guarding claire in night 3. Though i dont know the names.

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Aug 20, 2016 12:25 AM

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Does that not contradict that fact that Verumir, the bodyguard, died to their bastard element, requiring them not to have guarded anyone?
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Aug 20, 2016 12:38 AM

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PentaFlare said:
Does that not contradict that fact that Verumir, the bodyguard, died to their bastard element, requiring them not to have guarded anyone?


I believe that there is some bastard elements involve in yesterday's night kill.

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Aug 20, 2016 12:50 AM

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shadroxx2810 said:
PentaFlare said:
Does that not contradict that fact that Verumir, the bodyguard, died to their bastard element, requiring them not to have guarded anyone?


I believe that there is some bastard elements involve in yesterday's night kill.

This seems like a really easy way to just make up whatever you want. "I'm going to claim a role that sees visits, but just blame everything contradictory or missing on bastard elements."

I'm not sure why I'm bothering though. I struggle to see a scenario where you are not mafia or cult leader based on PoE.
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Aug 20, 2016 12:59 AM

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Bee-Boy said:
Pentaflare - ???
Togs - ???
Rinto-kun - ???
Shadroxx2810 - ???
beeboy - 2-shot deathproof sur\/i\/or

I already claimed...
Rinto-kun said:
wen294 said:

Wait what were you usefull for again? I think i missed that.

Nothing useful. I am a one-shot Jailkeeper and 3-shot vote-nullifier. Used the Jailkeeper yesterday on Soren.

Karote said:


Even if you were the cult leader with members, think they would openly defend you?

I'm Usami, you baaaaka.
I gain nothing at all with sticking to the town, because they didn't do anything.
Can I join the despair club now? :D

Rinto-kun - Game-throwing since 2015.
PentaFlare said:
Strange. I have a feeling the message I received last night is much more likely to be a jail message. Something about going to detention? At the very least, I got roleblocked, because my reflexive ability didn't trigger. (I have a reflexive investigation role as my second ability).

@Soren Did you get anything? Was there some kind of redirection?

Oops, I fucked up, it seems I used my ability on Penta, seeing my message log, LOL. I don't even remember what I was thinking the day before???



Aug 20, 2016 12:59 AM

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PentaFlare said:
shadroxx2810 said:


I believe that there is some bastard elements involve in yesterday's night kill.

This seems like a really easy way to just make up whatever you want. "I'm going to claim a role that sees visits, but just blame everything contradictory or missing on bastard elements."

I'm not sure why I'm bothering though. I struggle to see a scenario where you are not mafia or cult leader based on PoE.


Why would i bother to claim otherwise?
See, i have always been a bad roleclaimer and you should know that based on past experience that we were both mafia at one point.
If i asked someone to helped me in claiming, then there wouldn't be any flaw.
And mind you, I have only been mafia only twice so i would at least ask someone for help.
If i'm claiming by myself, then there should be a flaw which would show that im at least genuine .

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Aug 20, 2016 1:01 AM

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shadroxx2810 said:
PentaFlare said:

This seems like a really easy way to just make up whatever you want. "I'm going to claim a role that sees visits, but just blame everything contradictory or missing on bastard elements."

I'm not sure why I'm bothering though. I struggle to see a scenario where you are not mafia or cult leader based on PoE.


Why would i bother to claim otherwise?
See, i have always been a bad roleclaimer and you should know that based on past experience that we were both mafia at one point.
If i asked someone to helped me in claiming, then there wouldn't be any flaw.
And mind you, I have only been mafia only twice so i would at least ask someone for help.
If i'm claiming by myself, then there should be a flaw which would show that im at least genuine .

This doesn't make any sense. "There is a mistake in my claim. That proves that I am town." No, this just proves that you are lying.
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Aug 20, 2016 1:02 AM

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PentaFlare said:
shadroxx2810 said:


Why would i bother to claim otherwise?
See, i have always been a bad roleclaimer and you should know that based on past experience that we were both mafia at one point.
If i asked someone to helped me in claiming, then there wouldn't be any flaw.
And mind you, I have only been mafia only twice so i would at least ask someone for help.
If i'm claiming by myself, then there should be a flaw which would show that im at least genuine .

This doesn't make any sense. "There is a mistake in my claim. That proves that I am town." No, this just proves that you are lying.


Look at past games where I played as mafia with you. Do i seem to role claim that perfectly in your eyes?

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Aug 20, 2016 1:11 AM

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shadroxx2810 said:
PentaFlare said:

This doesn't make any sense. "There is a mistake in my claim. That proves that I am town." No, this just proves that you are lying.


Look at past games where I played as mafia with you. Do i seem to role claim that perfectly in your eyes?
No. You aren't very good at fakeclaiming, which is why your claims are easy to pick apart like this. You have basically claimed to be a watcher that sees the ability being used instead of the person visiting. There are a few problems with this:

You are claiming only actions that are common knowledge or cannot be confirmed because the user is dead.

Verumir is dead, which means that unless you can explain that third kill, their visit could never have happened.

There are already a bunch of claimed investigative roles. Both Soren and Hero have claimed to be alignment cops. I am a reflexive flavour cop. Denja was a tracker. I doubt that many townies have investigative abilities. If, despite what is already mentioned, you are actually telling the truth, that basically confirms you are mafia. One of the investigative roles is almost certainly mafia. An alignment cop would be useless to mafia, my ability gives provides information that is only beneficial to town, which just leaves yours. The only one that could be a mafia ability.
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Aug 20, 2016 1:17 AM

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Final point. You are only referring to the mafia, and how you get help from scummates when you are mafia. You have made no mention of the cult. You only see this as a mafia vs town game. As a townie, you would be more concerned about the cult, which is an immediate threat to our survivial. As mafia, you are only worried about the mafia vs others situation, hence the lack of mention of a cult.

I think I can conclusively say that Rinto and shad are both mafia. That means that either Togs or Bee-Boy is the cult leader. If Bee-Boy's lynch doesn't go through today, we hope the mafia kill hits a cultist, and then lynch Togs tomorrow.
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Aug 20, 2016 5:03 AM

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+1 to basically everything that PentaFlare said. I honestly don't buy either Bee-boy's role claim or shad's role claim. Lynching Bee-Boy now because he's most likely to be the cultist leader and Togs next day phase. While i'm more sure of Shad being scum than Togs we're after the Cultist Leader now and not the mafia so Togs'd be a secondary target in case we survive this day phase 'cause I think by now ~ Half the town is converted by cultist so unless we lynch a person from the cult, leader or not we won't make tomorrow.
Or at least you got 1 leader, 1st night failed because mafia targeted the same dude, then a second dude on the 2nd night that wasn't caught, a third dude on the third night that wasn't caught. If 2 people die and none are cult the numbers would make 50% cult in the next day phase which i think means we've lost. Unless 50% doesn't count as outnumber?
Aug 20, 2016 5:25 AM

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Vote Count 4.1

Bee-boy (4) // ♙wen294,Rinto-kun,Togs,Pentaflare♙
Shadroxx2810 (1) // ♙Bee-Boy♙


♞Not Voting♞: ♙ shadroxx2810, ZTHero, Karote, soren♙


♕ Mod Notes: This phase will last 24 hours.
☼ Timer for Day 4 ☼
JackritoAug 20, 2016 7:38 AM
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Vote: shadroxx
Let's equal the votes.



Aug 20, 2016 5:54 AM

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Rinto-kun said:
Vote: shadroxx
Let's equal the votes.

Because why the hell would we want to????
We want to lynch cultist here, not mafia. Let me guess, you're converted?
Aug 20, 2016 6:01 AM

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Rinto-kun said:
Vote: shadroxx
Let's equal the votes.


This action is so fishy, its not even funny.

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Aug 20, 2016 6:03 AM

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That's how I like it.
I just like having much opportunities and no ulterior motives.



Aug 20, 2016 6:20 AM

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FIIIIIINE.
Vote: bee-boy
Though his claim seems so much like a cult leader's(will I still get invited if I lynch the leader? :'( ).



Aug 20, 2016 6:21 AM

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Vote Count 4.2

Bee-boy (4) // ♙wen294,Togs,Pentaflare,Rinto-kun♙
Shadroxx2810 (1) // ♙Bee-Boy


♞Not Voting♞: ♙ shadroxx2810, ZTHero, Karote, soren♙


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☼ Timer for Day 4 ☼
JackritoAug 20, 2016 7:37 AM
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Vote Bee-Boy

I'll follow along for this day's lynch.
If something does happen to me, remember the three names as I'm pretty sure the mods won't lie to me the 4th time :3

Karote, DenjaX, Togs.

I'm all in on Togs next day.
Vanilla town, away!
Aug 20, 2016 6:59 AM

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Vote Count 4.3

Bee-boy (5) // ♙wen294,Togs,Pentaflare,Rinto-kun,ZThero♙
Shadroxx2810 (1) // ♙Bee-Boy


♞Not Voting♞: ♙ shadroxx2810, Karote, soren♙


♕ Mod Notes: This phase will last 24 hours.
☼ Timer for Day 4 ☼
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It is time for the class trial! Will the killer(s) be caught?
Or will everyone else receive punishment and the Blackened gets one step closer to their graduation?

At the end of the class trial, you must cast your votes on who you think is the killer(s) are.
Something good may happen to you if you happen to be right! Upupupupu!


JackritoAug 20, 2016 7:39 AM
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Vote: Bee-boy
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Jackrito said:
Vote Count 4.3

Bee-boy (5) // ♙wen294,Togs,Pentaflare,Rinto-kun,ZThero♙
Shadroxx2810 (1) // ♙Bee-Boy


♞Not Voting♞: ♙ shadroxx2810, Verumir, Karote, soren♙


♕ Mod Notes: This phase will last 24 hours.
☼ Timer for Day 4 ☼

Verumir is already dead so he can't vote right?
Aug 20, 2016 7:36 AM

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wen294 said:
Jackrito said:
Vote Count 4.3



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Verumir is already dead so he can't vote right?


Yes this is what happens when you copy from old vote counts.
Aug 20, 2016 7:39 AM

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Vote Count 4.4

Bee-boy (5) // ♙wen294,Togs,Pentaflare,Rinto-kun,ZThero♙
Shadroxx2810 (1) // ♙Bee-Boy


♞Not Voting♞: ♙ shadroxx2810, Karote, soren♙


♕ Mod Notes: This phase will last 24 hours.
☼ Timer for Day 4 ☼
Aug 20, 2016 7:45 AM

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I lied about believing bee-boy to get information out of him, and he continued to looked scummy.

Vote: bee-boy
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