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Jul 25, 2008 2:40 AM

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Cihan said:

This will surprise you, but only The Matrix used 'bullet time', the sequels didnt.


Thank god your not a barrister... all your clients would be poor. Did you not state, as I quote above, that they "didn't" use it, or do my eyes deceive me? I think the record proves in my favour sir. As as such, your accountability for expertise of this film lacking.

And rather than take up another post, quick edit.

Cihan said:
That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Mr Hammy McHammison really was emotional, yup.


Better than an overpaid actor who has 2 whole emotions, surprise and confused. Next thing you will tell me that Speed and "There's a bomb on the bus!" was as Oscar Award worthy job.
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sakuko said:
Thank god your not a barrister... all your clients would be poor. Did you not state, as I quote above, that they "didn't" use it, or do my eyes deceive me? I think the record proves in my favour sir. As as such, your accountability for expertise of this film lacking.


You began the stupid debate with 'they totally abuse bullet time!', and my count was off by 1, big deal. You're the one that's derailed the thread.

Back to Bebop before the mods wave their stick.
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Jul 25, 2008 2:47 AM

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Nice retreat on your part, and you're the one who went off the deep end with a four paragraph essay from a two sentence and one paragraph quick comment. But whatever.
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sakuko said:
Nice retreat on your part, and you're the one who went off the deep end with a four paragraph essay from a two sentence and one paragraph quick comment. But whatever.


Read page 5 of this thread and show me an instance of where you're talking about Cowboy Bebop when replying to my opinion that Tarantino isnt fit to direct the adaptation.

That's right, you're not.

Partly my fault for humouring you that the thread's gone off topic, so I'll just ignore your hysterical keyboard bashing now.
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Jul 25, 2008 3:10 AM

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I seriously doubt theres any directors that could do it justice.
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Jul 25, 2008 4:11 AM

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Part of me is so excited about this.
And then the other half is fearful.
I just hope, like many others have said, they don't screw this one up.
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@ Sukuko and Cihan: Your post was more detailed (seriously 4 paragraphs?) and (didn't like your last paragraph) so I just aimed my previous post at just you sorry. Either way both of you shouldn't be comparing these directors' movies as they are different genres altogether.



Hollywood is running out of ideas and this shows it. It's nice that they are showing interest in other countries' media anyways.

Now prediction time: I say either Rurouni Kenshin or Blood for the next adaptation.
Jul 25, 2008 7:27 AM

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Kuronoa said:
Now prediction time: I say either Rurouni Kenshin or Blood for the next adaptation.


Blood (or shitty Blood+) probably more likely considering Hollywood composer Hans Zimmer's protege's involvement in that. Kenshin's too Japanese. Unless Tom Cruise is allowed in it as an American who does all the hard work while Kenshin stands on the sidelines with an injured arm or something. ('cause you know, we need a caucasian in the story so we can relate to those weird foreigners!)

Here's another question about Bebop: do they follow the jist of the series' ending? I would talk spoilers but MAL has this annoying habit of having threads for post-release type discussion but people get 'spoiled' anyway.

Can we talk spoilers guys? It's been a decade since its been out and anybody who hasnt seen Bebop has no reason to be in here anyway.
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If they touch Rurouni Kenshin I will personally go apeshit. Bebop is one thing, but you don't fuck with Kenshin.. You just don't.
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Cihan said:
Kuronoa said:
Now prediction time: I say either Rurouni Kenshin or Blood for the next adaptation.


Blood (or shitty Blood+) probably more likely considering Hollywood composer Hans Zimmer's protege's involvement in that. Kenshin's too Japanese. Unless Tom Cruise is allowed in it as an American who does all the hard work while Kenshin stands on the sidelines with an injured arm or something. ('cause you know, we need a caucasian in the story so we can relate to those weird foreigners!)

Here's another question about Bebop: do they follow the jist of the series' ending? I would talk spoilers but MAL has this annoying habit of having threads for post-release type discussion but people get 'spoiled' anyway.

Can we talk spoilers guys? It's been a decade since its been out and anybody who hasnt seen Bebop has no reason to be in here anyway.


XDDDDDD Oh, Kenshin... I could see it. Maybe. But, I understand, and I would abhore the bringing in of Tom Cruise, or the like! XD Still... Oh... That made my day. =3

I'm just dandy with the spoilers. Daryl spoiled me long ago!! (Curse, you!) I'm half-way through the series... I can live. Meh. I don't think I could bring anything special to the table, but maybe you all can with the spoiler warning removed.
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I just want to throw out there that I inexplicably liked (and own) The Last Samurai with Tom Cruise, lol.
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Jul 25, 2008 10:20 AM

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I liked the Last Samurai, too. XD But in Kenshin? Noooo... Do it right or don't do it at all. That's my stance on everything.
Jul 25, 2008 10:26 AM

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The thing is though, even the Japanese suck a lot of the time at adapting manga to live action. At this point, all I care about is who's directing, writing and producing, doesnt matter where they're from anymore. Although if a story is set in Japan, then I'd like it kept that way and not have all the Asians magically replaced.
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Jul 25, 2008 10:28 AM

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Cihan said:
Although if a story is set in Japan, then I'd like it kept that way and not have all the Asians magically replaced.
How many times have I seen that now? =\
Jul 25, 2008 10:39 AM

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Lacrimosa said:
How many times have I seen that now? =


If you look at the Hollywood trend of J-horror movies, what have they changed in the transition from Japan to USA other than the races of the characters? I mean, really? Did they provide new unique twists on the source material? Not really, they just Americanized it, and its depressing, insulting and just creepy hegemonious hijinks. :(

I cant think of any actor to play Spike. (oO)

If I was directing and felt like being daring, I'd cast Asano Tadanobu ...
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Cihan said:
If you look at the Hollywood trend of J-horror movies, what have they changed in the transition from Japan to USA other than the races of the characters? I mean, really? Did they provide new unique twists on the source material? Not really, they just Americanized it, and its depressing, insulting and just creepy hegemonious hijinks. :(


Yeah really, if anything I think they made the films more confusing for many. The only one I really liked was Pulse. ^_^


Now, as long as I'm still predicting I'm adding Lupin to the list.
I doubt they can screw that one up badly... (or could they?)
Jul 25, 2008 2:14 PM

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Kenshin TV/manga is too silly for it to be made into a film.Maybe the OVA, but the TV? no way.

Of course they could do it but so many things would be changed/cut, they might as well make an original Samurai movie.

I can't think of any actors that could successfully play the bebop crew.I mean Ed? hahaha yeah right.
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Maggie Q is the go-to girl for Asian Woman in Hollywood films lately. I can see her being cast as Faye.
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Jul 26, 2008 1:14 AM
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why r people bitching? fanboys will never get what they want this director have to problems pleasing a fanboy and pleasing a person thats never seen coboy bebop i personaly tink that japanese adaptations r hard to do with al that si-phy stuff well this one is more ezey exept for the space element and who is going to play who? i think us fanboys r taking this to seriesly talking and arguing here at the end will change nothing the directors r goin to do what they want
Jul 26, 2008 1:25 AM

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Kuronoa said:
Yeah really, if anything I think they made the films more confusing for many. The only one I really liked was Pulse. ^_^


Pulse was a good movie when Japanese. It had those little side things like the C-130 going down in flames. The collapse of world order through such simple beginnings.
Jul 26, 2008 3:05 PM

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i hope they dont cast keanu reeves as spike -.-
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sakuko said:
Pulse was a good movie when Japanese. It had those little side things like the C-130 going down in flames. The collapse of world order through such simple beginnings.


I own the original Japanese and the americanized one. ^_^ I also have the whole Ringu collection. Haven't seen the americanized versions but after watching the originals first I don't want to now. XD
Jul 27, 2008 12:58 PM
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Actually, this may turn out good, if they have the right cast.
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O.o
Wow... this is shocking...
Well~ My opinion will have to wait till I actually see the final project~
Though Hopefully it won't end up like another Eva live action thats been in the air for like the last 5 yearsXD

If they touch Rurouni Kenshin I will personally go apeshit. Bebop is one thing, but you don't fuck with Kenshin.. You just don't.


Well said my friend^.^
I would only accept if it was perfect an every way which is physically impossible~
So if they value their lives the better not touchXD

I was thinking Berserk would make a good live action movie thoughO.o
Not that they lazy guy has finished the series yet though lol...
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Hopefully, they choose some less famous actors that will actually play their role instead of slur their speech together just to get another pay check. They also better sound like Spike and everyone else. Since he directed the Matrix it should be pretty decent, but then again our American Movie Industry has really fallen on hard times. I havent seen a decent movie in a loooong time.
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Since he directed the Matrix it should be pretty decent, but then again our American Movie Industry has really fallen on hard times. I havent seen a decent movie in a loooong time.


He didnt. We should make this clear: the guy the article is quoting is just an executive producer, he's not going to be making the creative decisions on this movie, so at the moment we dont really have much to go on when we're judging this project, nothing but the fact that it's going to be Americanized.
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All the money in my wallet bets that this will fail. I've seen this same scenario before, except with videogames and the movie industry - it'll be a watered down american blockbuster, compensating quality with special effects.
Aug 1, 2008 10:35 AM

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Oh dear.

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a good friend inside the industry who is a very reliable source wrote in to tell me that the film is being fast tracked inside the studio and will most likely be out by 2010. He also revealed that Keanu Reeves has been attached as the lead character Spike for over eight months now and is still set for the role. Unfortunately there isn't a writer or director attached yet, but with some new forward momentum coming from last week's announcement, I don't think it will take too long.


I like Keanu, I really do, but only in moderation. Having him anywhere near this adaptation is giving me flashbacks of Johnny Mnemonic for some reason.

This is gonna be a glorious Mario Brothers level trainwreck that wont do anime DVD companies any favours. They want the masses to like anime!

edit: of course this is very early days, so it still isnt a lost cause. Lots of cast and crew get rearranged in the early stages of a film production, so... (Nic Cage was seriously gonna be Superman for a while, lol)
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Aug 1, 2008 11:48 AM

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The idea of Keanu as Spike makes my soul weep with despair. I really hope this is a rumor that does not pan out.
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OMG, I'm scared. Holy shit, I'm scared. Like many others, I really, really do NOT want Keanu Reeves to be Spike! Grrr.... This better not get screwed up.

Honestly, I think they should pick some hungry up and becoming unknown actors to fill the cast.

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Hmmm, another anime "live action" adaption...none of them really ever show much promise, so I'm foreseeing alot of angry Cowboy Bebop fans :P.


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Keanu Spiegel go!

AS long as they make him say, 'Whoa' once in the film, my soul will be content. That, or they can hire an actor and not Neo.

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Aug 3, 2008 12:25 PM

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i'm sort of looking forward to it. I think it will be exciting to see how they make it into a liveaction.
Aug 5, 2008 10:49 PM

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Speed Racer, Akira, Dragon Ball Z, now Cowboy Bebop!? Hell, there even making a Thunder Cats Movie as well as a Smurfs.

I believe Hollywood has officially ran out of ideas.

Now they've decided to fuck with our anime.

As Chris Crocker would say,
"LEAVE ANIME ALONE!!!!"


Aug 5, 2008 10:53 PM

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the beauty of anime is that no matter the concept it is possible

any live action movie trying to recreate anime is doomed to fail in my opinion
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HappyPear said:
Actually, this may turn out good, if they have the right cast.

Absolutely.

I know the perfect Spike.
Lee Pace!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The idea of Keanu as Spike makes my soul weep with despair. I really hope this is a rumor that does not pan out.


100% agreed.
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To be fair, a live action version of "Cowboy Bebop" actually MAKES SENSE.

While it's the millionth Hollywood adaptation of a comic book/anime series/Japanese live action movie/manga, it has the potential to be both meaningful and interesting.

Of course, I have serious doubt that any director could replicate what Shinichiro Watanabe did with the series and movie. Who are they going to hire as a director? If I were a producer, I would seriously consider giving Watanabe a shot at it.
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i would say edward northon as spike????? if the made a black lagoon movie he could play rock
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Dear God, I haven't even seen Cowboy Bebop yet I already know this will be a fail of epic proportions.
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Mana said:
Erwin Stoff, film producer of The Matrix & A Scanner Darkly, is developing a live-action version of the popular anime series Cowboy Bebop. In an interview Stoff stated “I’m really excited to be working on it, and it’s in the really early stages. We just signed it the other day.” . He also promised "A real degree of faithfulness" and added, “When I met with them in Japan, one of the first things that I brought up was the experience that we had on A Scanner Darkly, and how hard we worked to remain faithful to Philip K. Dick, and that was our big concern here.” The film is being developed for Fox.


[Source: ANN] [Source 2: IFMagazine]


I've saw "A Scanner Darkly" and i think if he follows the same quality that he showed on Scanner he willb e able to make an awesome movie, specially grabing the darker part of Cowboy Bebop.
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oh no >.<

i better not tell seth


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the_seventh_l said:
If Keanu plays Spike, I'll weep. As will the whole world. Just, no. Do not want.

Start weeping -.-

Keanu Reeves to Play Spike Spiegel
In Live Action 'Cowboy Bebop'

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/13950.html

*sigh*
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didnt really like cowboy bepop, but love the stile of the anime and the animations

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didnt really like cowboy bepop, but love the stile of the anime and the animations


How can you not like Cowboy Bebop? It is epic.
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Buldozer said:
didnt really like cowboy bepop, but love the stile of the anime and the animations


How can you not like Cowboy Bebop? It is epic.


Indeed it is, I am very sad that it ended with only 2 manga series, 1 anime series, and 1 anime movie.

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goddamnit...fox is gonna mangle a classic, its a shame.
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i just hoping they will not ruin this one =="
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