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Oct 27, 2015 3:15 AM
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Why most anime characters who smokes make them look cool or badass?
I mean, just search in google images with "Anime smoke" you'll get the idea.
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Oct 27, 2015 3:17 AM
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Idk, I despise smoking irl but in anime when a character smokes they are instantly badass. It just somehow works.
when ur about to have a refreshing sip of earl grey tea and someone says "traps are gay"
Oct 27, 2015 3:20 AM
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panders to edgelords quite a bit
Oct 27, 2015 3:21 AM
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Because they're not speaking
Oct 27, 2015 3:22 AM
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Animestic said:
panders to edgelords quite a bit


Kiritsugu comes to mind with this comment.
Oct 27, 2015 3:39 AM
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Because they are for most part ( i dont smoke or never will myself though)

Every character that i watched in anime that smokes had aloot of badass action.
Oct 27, 2015 3:40 AM
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Illyricus said:
Animestic said:
panders to edgelords quite a bit



Real smokers are not cool. Having coughing fits and smelling like burnt shit is one of the lamest things, makes me feel bad for them.
Oct 27, 2015 3:43 AM
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Exowave said:
Because they are for most part ( i dont smoke or never will myself though)

Every character that i watched in anime that smokes had aloot of badass action,

Yes. but I mean does that make smoking=badass in japanese perspective?
kids/preteeners will try to smoke to look cool?
Oct 27, 2015 3:43 AM
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Came in this thread thinking this kind of smokes

Oct 27, 2015 3:47 AM

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Deago said:
Exowave said:
Because they are for most part ( i dont smoke or never will myself though)

Every character that i watched in anime that smokes had aloot of badass action,

Yes. but I mean does that make smoking=badass in japanese perspective?
kids/preteeners will try to smoke to look cool?


Probably yeah kids will think that their actions are not what makes badass but smoking itself as a act. It is big problem in many countries including mine too (well to a lesser degree now then before).
Oct 27, 2015 3:54 AM

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Menzo- said:
Idk, I despise smoking irl but in anime when a character smokes they are instantly badass. It just somehow works.


Agree.

Oct 27, 2015 4:07 AM

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CondemneDio said:
Illyricus said:



Real smokers are not cool. Having coughing fits and smelling like burnt shit is one of the lamest things, makes me feel bad for them.


I agree with that. Also smoking threatens heavily your health and can produce cancer. I can't imagine how the characters from Black Lagoon (who are always smoking like crazy) would feel.
Oct 27, 2015 4:09 AM

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Illyricus said:
CondemneDio said:


Real smokers are not cool. Having coughing fits and smelling like burnt shit is one of the lamest things, makes me feel bad for them.


I agree with that. Also smoking threatens heavily your health and can produce cancer. I can't imagine how the characters from Black Lagoon (who are always smoking like crazy) would feel.


They really don't have a bright future ahead of them :D

On another point; smoking chefs/cooks in anime would be bad ones. Smoking dulls your tastebuds.
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CondemneDio said:
Illyricus said:


I agree with that. Also smoking threatens heavily your health and can produce cancer. I can't imagine how the characters from Black Lagoon (who are always smoking like crazy) would feel.


They really don't have a bright future ahead of them :D

On another point; smoking chefs/cooks in anime would be bad ones. Smoking dulls your tastebuds.


Poor Sanji then :(
Oct 27, 2015 4:14 AM

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Illyricus said:
CondemneDio said:


Real smokers are not cool. Having coughing fits and smelling like burnt shit is one of the lamest things, makes me feel bad for them.


I agree with that. Also smoking threatens heavily your health and can produce cancer. I can't imagine how the characters from Black Lagoon (who are always smoking like crazy) would feel.


Kerry would have died from smoking if he didn't get showered by mud. Poor guy, what a price to pay to be edgy ;___;
Oct 27, 2015 4:16 AM

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Live and let live, but god damn if you smoke on anime you do look cool.
Oct 27, 2015 4:17 AM

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OneTrueEmiya said:
Illyricus said:


I agree with that. Also smoking threatens heavily your health and can produce cancer. I can't imagine how the characters from Black Lagoon (who are always smoking like crazy) would feel.


Kerry would have died from smoking if he didn't get showered by mud. Poor guy, what a price to pay to be edgy ;___;


Oct 27, 2015 4:18 AM

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they look badass because you cant smell them
Oct 27, 2015 4:18 AM

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I despise smoking. It harms both the user and everyone around him. I don't see the point in that. Something like that is never cool.

I don't know why edgelords associate this with being cool.
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Animestic said:
OneTrueEmiya said:


Kerry would have died from smoking if he didn't get showered by mud. Poor guy, what a price to pay to be edgy ;___;




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OneTrueEmiya said:
Illyricus said:


I agree with that. Also smoking threatens heavily your health and can produce cancer. I can't imagine how the characters from Black Lagoon (who are always smoking like crazy) would feel.


Kerry would have died from smoking if he didn't get showered by mud. Poor guy, what a price to pay to be edgy ;___;


I believe that the Grail's mud is in fact nicotine.

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The best decission of his entire life, in fact.
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Animestic said:





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Animestic said:
OneTrueEmiya said:







Illyricus said:

The best decission of his entire life, in fact.


The closest he's been to being an ally of justice xD
Oct 27, 2015 4:25 AM

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OneTrueEmiya said:





Zeltrech's 2nd true magic is a thing so yes,entirely possible
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Animestic said:
OneTrueEmiya said:





Zeltrech's 2nd true magic is a thing so yes,entirely possible


The world's greatest ally of justice can't die like that ;___;
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OneTrueEmiya said:
Animestic said:


Zeltrech's 2nd true magic is a thing so yes,entirely possible


The world's greatest ally of justice can't die like that ;___;


He dies more often than he lives if you consider the Bad Ends

OT:I guess,someway down the line some people consider smoking== grown up/mature and people here tend to be obsessed with the term "mature"..so yeah
Oct 27, 2015 4:31 AM
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Menzo- said:
Idk, I despise smoking irl but in anime when a character smokes they are instantly badass. It just somehow works.
Oct 27, 2015 5:41 AM

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Spike Speigel and Kiritsugu Emiya immediately come to mind.
Oct 27, 2015 5:55 AM

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I dont think I saw a anime character who vapes instead of smoke yet
Oct 27, 2015 6:10 AM
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Smoking is good for your health and also works as a spirit repellent.
Oct 27, 2015 6:11 AM

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Let me think about it...

It might be that it's not smoking that makes characters look badass, but that some badass characters happen to smoke.
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Oct 27, 2015 6:42 AM

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worldeditor11 said:
Smoking is good for your health and also works as a spirit repellent.


Seems legit.
Oct 27, 2015 7:35 AM

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Caelidesu said:
Let me think about it...

It might be that it's not smoking that makes characters look badass, but that some badass characters happen to smoke.

Now I think about it, it might be all coincidence lol. Because if a lolli would smoke it wouldn't make her badass ,right?

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Duatizer said:

Now I think about it, it might be all coincidence lol. Because if a lolli would smoke it wouldn't make her badass ,right?


Sure it would.

It works for dog.. things.

Then again that could just be the fact he's voiced by Jouji Nakata.
Oct 27, 2015 8:01 AM

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Cool/Badass characters can make pretty much anything look cool/badass, it's not just smoking.
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Smoking is good for your health and also works as a spirit repellent.

I can cofirm this, I have been smoking for years and I have never been bothered by spirits.

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Oct 27, 2015 10:15 AM

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Because smoking makes people so edgy...
Oct 27, 2015 10:26 AM

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U ever seen hollywood movies 20-30+ years ago? They do it way more m8. Smoking used to be badass, and still somewhat considered.
Brace yourself.

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Oct 27, 2015 10:28 AM

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U ever seen hollywood movies 20-30+ years ago? They do it way more m8. Smoking used to be badass, and still somewhat considered.


damn I was going through the thread and banging my head on the keyboard at the lack of intelligent answer. TY

The answer is: Film noir.
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Oct 27, 2015 10:47 AM

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Smoking isn't only to pander to edgelords, that's just your insecurities talking.

Lots of characters in non edgy anime smoke too. Slice of life aimed at a mature audience, mystery fiction protagonist, single teacher in a school anime, macho heroes, walking failures, gross fat men, despair ridden suicidal protagonist and the list goes on.
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Smoking isn't only to pander to edgelords, that's just your insecurities talking.

Lots of characters in non edgy anime smoke too. Slice of life aimed at a mature audience, mystery fiction protagonist, single teacher in a school anime, macho heroes, walking failures, gross fat men, despair ridden suicidal protagonist and the list goes on.


Best smoker is Mamimi :3
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Animestic said:
panders to edgelords quite a bit

But what about characters like Sanji and Asuma? They're not edgey in the slightest.
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Doomdoctor said:
Smoking isn't only to pander to edgelords, that's just your insecurities talking.

It is typical eroge fans never ending butthurt cry about people prefering Kiritsugu over emiya. Must discuss VN in every thread as well.

OT : Guts or Kenshiro looks badass without smoking, so it not like you need smoking for showing how badass they are, though it looks cool on the screen.
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Spike Speigel [snip] immediately come to mind.


How can you mention Spike but not Jet Black and Faye Valentine ? Both are badass and smoke. :D

also Aozaki Touko came to my mind.

Generally, smoking is not purely : cool (badass), but more cool (badass) AND somehow kaputt/ broken/ troubled/ not happy-go-lucky -> so : "deep" -> so, even more "cool" :D

Because smoking is "not healthy" and self-damaging, this shows that characters are not "fully healthy" personality-wise, too.
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Personally, being a cigarette smoker myself, I hate it when charachters in anime or any film smoke a lot. Because I then always find myself smoking a lot more myself. :head/wall:
annoying.
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One thing about in-anime smoking->cool is also the pure graphics quality it has.
Fire is pretty and interesting and cool, smoke itself is pretty and interesting and cool. Lighting a cigarette or a lit cigarette adds another light source, and a dynamic one at that. Smoke moving ever so elegant and etherically (vocabulary?) can add not only to a scene's look, but also its dynamic. When you show a character or two, but like in a still, no movement, a moment of thought. But the smoke from the cigarette creates -> moves -> vanishes - this makes us notice how time actively passes, with maybe nothing else happening this adds to "dramatic pause".
(or un-dramatic pause, depends on situation)
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_Peksi said:
Cool/Badass characters can make pretty much anything look cool/badass, it's not just smoking.

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OT : Guts or Kenshiro looks badass without smoking, so it not like you need smoking for showing how badass they are, though it looks cool on the screen.


That's not my point, I know alot of badass characters who doesn't smoke.
my point is that anime smokers happens to be cool/badass characters for most of the time and for an unknown reason
Oct 27, 2015 3:37 PM
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This is badass?



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I think it's a cliche from noir days, where everyone was badass, silent and therefore it was high quality.
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Oct 27, 2015 4:14 PM
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Might as well draw them drinking coke dramatically...
I don't thinks it's cool. It's just that they give a cool character a bad habit to show that he supposedly doesn't give a fuck about anything.
Oct 27, 2015 4:16 PM

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Honestly I find characters who smoke in anime to be pretty badass most of the time. But that may be just because the characters were already badass without the smoking.
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Some characters know their shit really well


It's not about coolness or badassery as much as it is about sophistication. Smoking is often brought to emphasize adulthood, independence, etc. in fiction, at least when it's pictured in a romanticized way. It can also add mystery to the character or be used as a seductive trait. All of this is directly inherited from classic noir. In the end, just another cliché, and like any cliché, its execution can go right or wrong depending on the show and the character.
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