The Fragrant Flower Blooms With Dignity
| In The Asterisk War Sucks [COMPLETE EDITION] there's an argument that the anime fails at world-building, since it will describe it's city as dangerous and corrupt place, while at the same time all scenes in it show it as a peaceful and pristine place. I'm feeling something similar here: Chidori is described as a place for societal failures, so you would expect a school full of bullying, gangs, delinquents, people smoking, mistreated books, vandalism, graffiti, broken apparel, etc... Yet there's absolutely nothing of the sort. I get not wanting to include bullying and cigarettes to make the story simpler, but Chidori seems to have absolutely NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER: It looks clean, it looks well equipped, it looks adequately staffed, no one there is actually a delinquent. It looks like a normal school for working class lads. Is the Japanese standard for a terrible school simply one where there are a bit more "chara"s than average? Like, the way the premise of this anime works you would expect something like schools in Akira or Battle Royale... |
| The image of Chidori as such a school is mainly due to the prejudice of Kikyo otherwise it is just a school for people of bad grades. |
Reply to HoangNguyen2107
From what ive seen,Chidori is moreless like a school for those with horrendous score rather than a place for thugs and stuff,cuz its still a school in the city afterall.
And like usually some bad apples are the one that stands out so probably some cases of Chidpri student being thugs gets popular which is why students at Chidori get treated like thugs
And like usually some bad apples are the one that stands out so probably some cases of Chidpri student being thugs gets popular which is why students at Chidori get treated like thugs
HoangNguyen2107 said: From what ive seen,Chidori is moreless like a school for those with horrendous score rather than a place for thugs and stuff Doesn't one thing lead to another, though? It's expected that, if thugs are somewhere, it's on a school for those with horrendous scores. |
| School of not so bright people. Doens't mean they will be ill disciplined. Also these boys knows they suck compared to Kikyo which is why big inferiority complex. Otherwise the shits those girls things could have gotten way way ugly. |
| @Rejakos @WaterMage I think it would've been easy for me to notice that if it was only the Kikyo girls saying that, but my issue is that even people from Chidori say such things. I can understand "internalization", but unless they're saying that ironically, it's a pretty blatant rejection of what their own eyes see daily. |
| I think it's associated negatively because it is for students with poor grades so some people assume the students are all delinquents since many would have bad grades. Anyone actually really bad would often have just dropped out of school or expelled. In Japan only elementary and middle school are compulsory. High school is optional. Though it also is the case that some people who act out would stay in school because they are legitimately trying to get enough education for a decent paying job and may be in a more poor family. |
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| When was it stated that Chidori is a bad school? It's just not an elite private school, so compared to their neighbors, it seems a little rough. |
Reply to GrumbleDango
When was it stated that Chidori is a bad school? It's just not an elite private school, so compared to their neighbors, it seems a little rough.
| @GrumbleDango Kaoru Hana wa Rin to Saku Synopsis Despite being adjacent to one another, Chidori Public High School and the all-girls Kikyo Private Academy seem to exist in two different worlds. While the latter boasts an immaculate reputation and favors students from wealthy backgrounds, the former is a nest for dim-witted delinquents. Everyone at Kikyo harbors a deep hatred for their Chidori neighbors. |
Reply to thewiru
@GrumbleDango Kaoru Hana wa Rin to Saku
Synopsis
Despite being adjacent to one another, Chidori Public High School and the all-girls Kikyo Private Academy seem to exist in two different worlds. While the latter boasts an immaculate reputation and favors students from wealthy backgrounds, the former is a nest for dim-witted delinquents. Everyone at Kikyo harbors a deep hatred for their Chidori neighbors.
Synopsis
Despite being adjacent to one another, Chidori Public High School and the all-girls Kikyo Private Academy seem to exist in two different worlds. While the latter boasts an immaculate reputation and favors students from wealthy backgrounds, the former is a nest for dim-witted delinquents. Everyone at Kikyo harbors a deep hatred for their Chidori neighbors.
| @thewiru Oh true true. And the JP Wikipedia page says similar: "Chidori High School, a bottom-of-the-barrel boys' school for idiots" I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around it being a school for delinquents. How does such a school even exist or have enrollment? I feel like the average public school would have a small group of delinquent types, but the entire school? But then again, the theme of the anime is a 'don't judge a book by it's cover' kinda thing so maybe we have been misled about how bad Chidori actually is. |
Reply to GrumbleDango
@thewiru Oh true true. And the JP Wikipedia page says similar: "Chidori High School, a bottom-of-the-barrel boys' school for idiots"
I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around it being a school for delinquents. How does such a school even exist or have enrollment? I feel like the average public school would have a small group of delinquent types, but the entire school? But then again, the theme of the anime is a 'don't judge a book by it's cover' kinda thing so maybe we have been misled about how bad Chidori actually is.
I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around it being a school for delinquents. How does such a school even exist or have enrollment? I feel like the average public school would have a small group of delinquent types, but the entire school? But then again, the theme of the anime is a 'don't judge a book by it's cover' kinda thing so maybe we have been misled about how bad Chidori actually is.
| @GrumbleDango It doesn't have to be 100% delinquents, but having 3-5 on every class would already be a lot. Maybe it's like prison where you gotta join a gang by necessity? |
| My guessing is that its the perception from the Kikyo school where Chidori is probably, in reality, just an average school, with a normal student demographic. Obviously, Kikyo is a school for the wealthy and privileged or, in Kaoruko's case, the exceptionally academically gifted. That makeup is probably going to contain a lot fewer "delinquents" so I guess, relative to their experience, Chidori probably does seem like a bad school. Maybe there'll be some more questionable Chidori characters going forward to double-down on this idea of it being objectively a "bad" school. In Honey Lemon Soda, where they had a school of a similar reputation, they did introduce some really badly-acting characters to just get that across. There's still time here, but personally, I'd find it more interesting if they stuck with the idea of it being a more prejudiced view than something based in reality. |
Reply to thewiru
@Rejakos
@WaterMage
I think it would've been easy for me to notice that if it was only the Kikyo girls saying that, but my issue is that even people from Chidori say such things.
I can understand "internalization", but unless they're saying that ironically, it's a pretty blatant rejection of what their own eyes see daily.
@WaterMage
I think it would've been easy for me to notice that if it was only the Kikyo girls saying that, but my issue is that even people from Chidori say such things.
I can understand "internalization", but unless they're saying that ironically, it's a pretty blatant rejection of what their own eyes see daily.
| @thewiru just as I said these boys have bad inferiority complex. Those girls say anything they want they take it because they are worse at education and poorer than them. So even if they don't want to accept it they are subconsciously doing it like you said. Idk what will happen in future but 1/2 intra school couple unlikely going to change the situation. It's kinda fucked up tbh. Have to give those boys credit because I could easily see things get messed up any moment with girls going out of hand with their remarks. |
This is what is said in Manga in a later chapter |
TokeiSenpai said: “Bad” in Japan is like 90th percentile everywhere else Yes as an American, the whole 'delinquent' idea in Japan is pretty funny. Here the little thugs run the class, knife and shoot each other, and everyone is too terrified to even say anything. |
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