BoaCC | 04-30-13, 9:37 AM
makitokun | 04-27-13, 3:30 AM
if you are still here, I can go into the chatzy room
makitokun | 04-24-13, 3:47 PM
I am the guy you have been skyping with. unfortunately, I have not found a kana keyboard for my tablet yet, not have I acquired a new laptop, however, I can use a japanese keyboard on my work computer, if you want to chat. just let me know, then we can make plans to chat here.
makitokun | 04-12-13, 9:33 PM
I would like to add you to my friends list, if that is ok?
symbv | 03-26-13, 11:05 AM
> Recent textbooks tend to show that Japan did more bad than good, when in fact Japan did much more good than bad
I don't know how you got that idea about Japan did more good than bad, but I think the general view outside Japan, and not just in Korea, is that Japan did a lot of bad and the textbooks, even the less nationalist ones, did not talk about it much. Of course you can say that you don't care about foreigner's views, and this goes back to what I said - it would be better to go to 鎖国 if you never feel there is any need to care about the foreigner's view. Yeah, that Fuji TV video seems to be precisely the result of digging and picking - that's all I would say.
You said you never said Korean cuisine and entertainment were conspired, but what you said here is indicating that you believe there is some conspired push to increase the presence of Korean food and entertainment in daily life of people in Japan, and this is what I meant by saying you think there is a "conspired move"
I would agree with you that Okinawan base is a valid concern and is a difficult issue too. And what you said about English in curriculum and TPP is also reasonable. But then my point is: why only so upset when Korean influence is perceived to be increasing but not when American influence is increasing?
I see what you mean by your crowd-funding idea for anime making. I just wondered where the consumers get after they pay the money because in your blog you described the payment as "investment" so I wonder what is the returns. But if you say it is more like a contribution or donation, with returns only a token item of say a BD, then I am also fine, although in this case I am not sure if it should be called "investment".
Well, I am not associating you with the ネトウヨ, at least you are much more reasonable and not inclined to go emotional compared to some I see on the net, although I can sense that you share some of the views with them.
symbv | 03-26-13, 6:37 AM
I know American infiltration started with end of WWII but what I am saying is this is still continuing apace in current times, right? You cannot say that just because it started over 60 years ago there is no need to feel concerned now. And you are saying as if the Korean food and music are pushed by some conspiracy and trickery. I would say that a lot of its popularity looks real. And I don't even see why Nikkyouso becomes part of the equation. And Fuji-TV? I see more a deliberate targeting by internet right-wing people to pick and dig mud to sling.
Well, if you say no country has the option of staying 鎖国, this means that what you said about people not caring about what happens to another country may not be wholly true?
You talk about consumers sponsoring anime (and by extension the animators), which I presume will happen after the number of anime studio and animators is cut down (as you said), so what does each consumer get out of the money he "invested"? The opportunity to see the anime (which other people who did not invest cannot see except by buying the BD)? And according to what you said, it would still allow business sponsoring anime and show it on TV, right? Or have I missed something?
symbv | 03-26-13, 12:07 AM
> Given that this conflict is heavily represented by the term "harmful infiltration" (of territory, of education, of media)
This is a matter of perception I think. Whether it is infiltration, whether it is harmful, is up for debate. Korean food or restaurant is not something very new in Japan. Japan has seen "infiltration" of English language and American culture for many years and the response is not as strident and virulent. I think there is some complex that Japan is holding against Korea (and perhaps vice versa too)
> Regarding overseas opinions, Japanese fans want to support Sakurasou and the anime industry by buying ridiculously expensive BDs, but fans do not want to support 韓流 either.
I have seen many of such comments in places like 2ch but I also wonder how many of them are just paying lip service from the beginning anyway. I never expect Sakuraso to sell much more BD/DVD than what it eventually sold (around 3.6k for vol.1), and when I checked the Amazon ranking I did not see significant drop of Sakuraso BD after the controversy broke. I think at most it may have lost a few hundred discs and that would probably be an overestimation anyway.
OK, I got what you mean now: Japanese not caring about Iraq War because Japanese do not care what happens in Iraq, and by similar reason you reckon overseas people do not care about Japan. There may be some truth in it, but you seem to just lump the overseas foreigners with the anime watchers (which form a very tiny minority of the foreigner population) when you said "In conclusion, overseas foreigners can say whatever they want because it's not their problem. They couldn't care less as long as they have other people like me keep paying thousands of dollars each year on BDs in their stead" , and besides if you take such a cynical view of global politics and if it is really true, I guess every country should just mind its own business and go back to 鎖国 time?
Your idea in your blog basically boils down to crowd-funding to initiate anime production with the possible result (as you said) of reduced number of anime production and animators (meaning companies may close and animators losing jobs). I don't feel like commenting on its viability and I can see you are aware of the challenges and limits (appetite for change, number of people willing to support etc). I just have one question, you said " all late-night anime projects would depend on this investment system" and I wonder why. Are you advocating that no company should be allowed to sponsor making an anime, like they currently do now?
symbv | 03-25-13, 11:04 AM
> Perhaps if you reread my original question and take the standpoint of an original novel fan amidst this sociopolitical conflict, you may answer differently?
It depends on what the fan of the novel expects. There will be changes and omission when an adaptation is done, and it can be as trivial as changing the color of a dress or the type of car used. If you have to view the change as an indication of an insult to Japanese culture or pandering to Korea then you will find it problematic. As I said, I see it as the anime trying to present Jin as knowing some exotic cooking which he thinks may raise the spirits for those involved. I believe for a fan of the novel such view is also possible.
> Regarding the opinions of foreigners outside of Japan, especially given that most don't pay a cent for the anime they watch or read the original light novels, most Japanese people would say it's the same as Japanese people being totally uninterested in for instance the war in Iraq.
Well when I said "I would bet that not many overseas fans would think this is much of an issue" I mean I, as a foreigner, find myself agreeing with the reactions I see among other foreigner fans.
Also, your logic seems to echo the opinions I see in 2ch, that since they do not watch it legally (but most people in this site do it illegally anyway) their view about any controversy in the anime should not count. I do not see how that logic works. So if they do not watch the anime, but heard about this from a friend who watches it legally, then his view is then legitimate?
Also I do not see how analogy can be drawn with Japanese being uninterested in war in Iraq. Foreigner do not pay for watching the anime (although Japanese do not pay anything except electricity and TV charge to watch anime on TV ) and thus their view is not important. Japanese do not feel war in Iraq has direct impact and so they are not interested (although in fact they should given that there is indirect impact like on price of oil). What is the link?
> I still do find it ridiculous, for instance, that Americans get to watch all of the January 2013 animes in hd whenever they want for half eternity, with simply just the cheap price of a premium crunchyroll account and a premium funimation account while Japanese people have to pay a hundred times more, especially in rural areas.
I also find it ridiculous, but it is hard to see how it can be solved. Some want to say that Japanese fans subsidize the western fans but I don't think this way because from the beginning anime production does not take into account the overseas market, except in the case of a few very popular franchises, so it is always Japanese fans pay for the anime. However it is valid to argue that anime industry should do something to draw revenue from overseas market, and it is here things get tricky. People, most of them youngsters, do not want to pay a lot for access, and the easy availability of pirated stuff (with subtitle too) also restricts the price they can set for streaming the anime. So what to do?
But then I also agree that some of the cost in Japan is way too high, and often the customer is in a captive market position, with no choice but to pay or the high cost. Your example of high cost of access for anime access in rural areas is one of the examples. The question is who this high cost of living can be brought down.
symbv | 03-25-13, 9:24 AM
> do you think it is wrong, for instance, for the original novel fans of Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo to frown at the unexplained and unrevised-in-bd change from おかゆ to サムゲタン?
No, I don't think there is anything wrong at all. And I would bet that not many overseas fans would think this is much of an issue. Even in Japan, Samugetan is not really that unknown. Besides, I see the point in the anime as trying to showcase Jin's worldly side that he knows some food that is a bit exotic but yet healthy.
> Note here that 韓流 is a currently hollow fad that ended with 冬のソナタ,
I do not agree. I would say 韓流 actually started with 冬のソナタ, or at least became a real boom after that, but I agree that the boom has subsided in the last 2 years, particularly after the friction between Japan and Korea got worse. And I am not sure what you mean by "hollow" but if you mean it is currently quiet, then I agree, although during the boom, which is the few years after 冬のソナタ, the popularity felt real.
> Regarding cheap labor, more than half of Japanese businesses do not follow labor laws regarding Japanese employees to begin with (especially regarding the anime industry and its animators), and Koreans do get the same or a much higher living quality back in Korea than many Japanese people who have no option to go to Korea, even with the cheaper yen income Koreans get.
Well, that is globalization of labor market for you. Business will go to places where cost is cheaper in order to seek profit margin. This is why Japanese business builds factories in other countries. This is why menial tasks of animation are subcontracted out to Korea, China, Vietnam and the Philippines. You said Korean get same or better living quality and you also said that Koreans get cheaper income -- both are true, but for the business it is the cost that counts. The question to ask is perhaps, why places like Korea, Taiwan, Singapore have similar living quality as Japan while their income and living cost are lower?
That said, I agree that animators in Japan do not get good pay and many people in Japan do not get their fair treatment in terms of labor law (it is much harder to take pay leaves in Japan for example). But this I think has more to do with law enforcement, company culture and social customs. Besides, I don't know how much anime BD/DVD will cost if you have everything in the anime production done inside Japan, or how likely the industry can make money.
So here you go. My opinions. Guess they are not what you think, but as you asked I would just share my view.
symbv | 03-25-13, 8:03 AM
I do not know what details you want. What I wrote on Sakurasou thread is mainly on the voices heard in anonymous online forums like 2ch, where strident nationalism sentiment and ethnic-based insults are commonplace. I am not too certain how the sentiment really goes outside the internet because I never talk about this issue offline except with a few close friends, although I do notice that there seem to be more books with nationalist tone published in recent years (or perhaps those books are placed more prominently inside the bookstores), and also we see a rise of politicians with nationalist views in the election just held.
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cland-741953 | 02-16-13, 4:43 PM
特に「東方の かわいい！！ shake it!」みたいな、ダンスしてる奴が自分は好きみたいです。
cland-741953 | 02-15-13, 9:47 PM
I think SNS is harmful because I suppose there are two reasons for that.
The first reason is that people using SNS can contact with anyone all over the world.
They can't know what he or she is.
There is possible that a person who talking with you is a bad fellow even if he or she is so kind to yo.
Then you may be implicated in a crime.
It is awful.
The second reason is that there are so much wrong information in SNS site.
If a person post an information which is wrong, there may be people who believe it and they spread it without thinking well whether it is lie or not.
That makes troublesome.
Therefore I think SNS site should regulate members' communication.
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