English: Umineko: When They Cry
Synonyms: When They Cry 3, When the Seagulls Cry, When They Cry: Seagulls
Jul 2, 2009 to Dec 24, 2009
23 min. per ep.
R - 17+ (violence & profanity)
7.381 (scored by 53,271 users)
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SynopsisConsidered as the third installment in the highly popular "When They Cry" series by 07th Expansion, Umineko no Naku Koro ni takes place on the island of Rokkenjima, owned by the immensely wealthy Ushiromiya family. As customary per year, the entire family is gathering on the island for a conference that discusses the current financial situations of each respective person. Because of the family head's poor health, this year involves the topic of the head of the family's inheritance and how it will be distributed.
However, the family is unaware that the distribution of his wealth is the least of Ushiromiya Kinzo's (family head) concerns for this year's family conference. After being told that his end was approaching by his longtime friend and physician, Kinzo is desperate to meet his life's true love one last time: the Golden Witch, Beatrice. Having immersed himself in black magic for many of the later years in his life, Kinzo instigates a ceremony to revive his beloved upon his family's arrival on Rokkenjima. Soon after, a violent typhoon traps the family on the island and a string of mysterious murders commence, forcing the eighteen people on the island to fight for their lives in a deadly struggle between fantasy and reality.
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Opening Theme"One-winged Bird (片翼の鳥; Katayoku no Tori)" by Shikata Akiko
Ending Theme"la divina tragedia ~Makyoku~ (la divina tragedia~魔曲~)" by Jimang
A few things before reading this review:
-yes, I am one of those who have played the sound novel before watching the anime;
-no, I will not make this an essay of comparison between the two, nor will I praise the novel over the anime; however, it is inevitable that certain comparisons will indeed appear, in order to explain the flaws of the anime;
-this review might seem a bit unfriendly to someone who has no clue what Umineko is about. In fact, it's much more addressed to those who have partially or completely watched the anime/read the manga/played the game.
Let me begin with a simple assertion. Umineko as an anime is a bad experience. Note that I did not say horrendous nor terrible. The Umineko anime is not at all a complete train-wreck, despite all the hatred it receives from the fandom; it's simply nothing more than mediocre. In other terms, it feels similar to trying to bend a very detailed paper figurine in a jar that's too small and ruining it in the process. Yes, the figurine was remarkable beforehand. But no, it did not remain so afterward.
There are two main reasons why the Umineko anime doesn't work:
-adaptation decay (butchering of the characters and the plot for time's convenience) and
-the very little effort Studio DEEN put into making it (bad graphics, right music at the wrong time, wrong character designs, overall wrong atmosphere).
BUTCHERING OF THE CHARACTERS
One of Umineko's main put-offs is the fact that is has such a large cast of characters. You cannot help but forget who is who, who is related to whom, where someone popped out of, what the purpose of a certain character is and so on and so forth. The adaptation from the novel to the anime meant losing a lot of development for plot's sake, and that really adds to the overall confusion. Except for the very main two characters (Battler and Beatrice), almost all the other characters are uni-dimensional. Name one word that relates to Rosa - abusive. One that defines Maria? Whiny. One for Ronove? Cookies. See the point?
While it becomes (or should become) clear after a while that in the wit game of Umineko, the humans are nothing more that chess pieces and the witches are simply devices to advance the arguments, that isn't an excuse. Why should you watch something where you don't care for any of the characters? Again, this is still the adaptation's fault. The original source material, while still keeping a few members of the cast undeveloped (I'm looking at you, Hideyoshi and Nanjo), at least managed to make all the characters likeable – therefore less likely to suspect. The anime didn't retain that; quite the opposite. You end up feeling exasperated most of the time by almost everybody.
Now onto the main characters: Battler and Beatrice.
-supposed to be the epitome of manliness, logic and determination [novel];
-ended up being the most delusional of them all (ironically), has huge shoujo eyes and most of the times doesn't make any sense at all [anime].
-complex character, acts all cruel, rough and unrefined in the beginning, but manages to melt halfway through and create a friendship/rivalry bond with Battler, to the point of finally being able to transmit to him the purpose of her existence [novel];
-complete bitch who takes a 180 turn in the last episode and goes all helpless moe moe kyun for no reason [anime].
BUTCHERING OF THE PLOT
Like it or not, the original Umineko story is damn complex, a complete, subtle mindfuck, in fact. Perhaps that is why it doesn't work that well in the visual format of the anime. Anime watchers are used to taking something literally as it is. Umineko was not supposed to be like that – hence even the unfriendly red text. Unfortunately, Studio DEEN didn't manage to clear the misconception at all. To get to the point:
One of the main questions that arose while experiencing Umineko (both in the sound novel and the anime form) was this – why the heck would Battler try to deny the existence of the witch when she's obviously sitting in front of him, cackling inelegantly and hitting him in the head with her pipe? It seems utterly ridiculous and pointless. A complete waste of time.
However, that is not the case. The novel, having the advantage of underlining concepts in a textual form, managed to clear this. The anime didn't. To explain further on:
Say Mary (Beatrice) is a multimillionaire and Ben (Battler) is a salary-man. There is a great business plan (the murders) going to unfold. Ben claims that you can manage that business with an amount of experience similar to the one he has (logic). Mary claims that you can only do it with a lot of money (magic). They decide to settle this in a game of monopoly (the anti-fantasy vs. anti-mystery game).
Now obviously, in a game of monopoly there are restrictions. You can only play with monopoly money. Had Mary played with real-life money, Ben would have absolutely no chance of winning. That's why, Mary's moves are restricted as well. It's a completely fair game.
Proving the point, basically Battler doesn't have to deny magic, period. He would never be able to do that, with Beatrice appearing in front of him and whatnot. He has to deny magic on the 4th and 5th of October 1986 in Rokkenjima, based on the fake scenarios created by Beatrice. It's logical, it's fair and with the right ideas, it doesn't contradict itself at all, quite the opposite. That is the whole fun and magic of Umineko.
Of course, some might say, how the heck were the viewers supposed to know this with the anime not explaining it? Unfortunately, by the explanations being cut, they simply could not know it. The novel had a lot of detailed sidelong concepts to help the whole logic battle (chessboard turning, Hempel's raven, Schrödinger's cat box) which the anime only briefly mentioned and never insisted on. In other words, a mystery which seemed barely solvable in the novel isn't solvable at all in the anime. That's why, if you're watching Umineko expecting to get a straightforward, definite answer, you won't get it. Which is sad, considering that the main purpose of Umineko was to make you have a brainstorming session. Besides, when in an anime you have to consult additional sources to realize what the heck is going on, that in itself is a problem. I'd say watch Umineko for some other aspects than the mystery, but honestly, there's nothing more to watch if for. And that is Studio DEEN's fault.
EXCESSIVE FANSERVICE, COMPLETELY UNRELATED HIGURASHI ATMOSPHERE, UNSYMMETRYCAL EARS: I'm looking at you, Studio DEEN
That's exactly as the title says. You could feel that the staff members of Studio DEEN were completely desperate by simply throwing a glance at the DVD covers. Or by the excessive amount of cleavage in all the female character designs (minus Bernkastel, who, funnily enough, did have quite the bust in the original material). It's very likely that DEEN themselves realized the Umineko anime was bad as it is; and that they had no other plans in which to compensate that.
Now I don't have anything against this particular studio; but you as a viewer could definitely sense that they screwed up. There is a famous screenshot in which Eva has a huge ear on one side of her head as opposed to the tiny one on the other side. That goes beyond the excuse of lack of funds. It's simply not caring for. The other main mistake is probably the fact that DEEN tried to promote this as a Higurashi sequel as much as they could to be able to milk money out of the fans. Why should Maria have the Hinamizawa syndrome eyes? They are irrelevant and out of place. Why must there be those weird sideways camera angles? And that emphasis on the gruesome death scenes instead of, say, the reactions of the living (much more important to the plot themselves)?
As for the art, while not being overly-pretentious, it manages to be above barely watchable. In fact, it's a nice change from the shiny shiny artwork nowadays. Still, it doesn't rise above the overall mediocrity of the execution itself.
Let's stop this lament at once, though. For Umineko also has certain redeeming characteristics, though not enough. To name them:
-the music. Yes, used mostly inconsistently, but taken as a whole, very good music. However, that is still thanks to the sound novel tracks remixes;
-OH! DESIRE. A perfect ED theme. Almost as if it was the studio's message of 'You want to get trolled? Well get trolled till the end, then!';
-good, fitting voices for the characters (surprisingly, Shannon's voice actress managed to suit her personality really well).
ENJOYMENT AND OVERALL
Umineko anime can basically be defined as a great story with a horrible execution. And that is not right; for, on an anime market with a lot of mediocre stories with great visual/audio/atmosphere candies, Umineko is exactly the opposite, being hard to digest.
For a sound novel player, it's a complete session of rage, of 'Why the heck was that cut?' and 'Hey, they did that wrong! Bastards!'.
And for an anime-only viewer, it's a 'How do I make head or tail of this thing? Eh, never mind, someone's been killed again' reaction chain.
To conclude with, I would recommend Umineko the anime only to those who are new to anime in general and have only watched around 20-30 series so far. More experimented watchers would definitely be able to sense the plot holes and lack of affective implication. And they will not enjoy that.
(As a small parenthesis, this is quite opposed to my recommendation of the novel/manga; I recommend the novel/manga to absolutely anyone. Read it and you won't regret it.) read more
One must remember that the Umineko no Naku Koro ni anime is an adaptation. While the anime in itself may not necessarily warrant harsh scores of 2 or 3, in comparison to its source material, it is extremely, extremely lacking. I find it inconceivable that anyone could give this series, even if they never read the sound novel, a 9 or 10 out of 10 rating. While the sound novel may not have been a masterpiece, it was intriguing, exciting, and, at times, moving. In its adaptation into an anime, the entire thing was turned into something disgustingly shallow and one-dimensional.
I doubt that any studio or director would have been able to cram every single detail of the sound novels into 26 episodes. However, the way it was done was nothing but uncouth.
I was looking forward to Umineko from the moment I heard of it. I wasn't a big fan of Higurashi, but the synopsis made it seem reminiscent of my favorite book, And Then There Were None, and more fitting to my tastes in general. After the first five episodes, I couldn't describe it in any way other than "shallow." I hadn't heard of or read the novels at the time, but from the very beginning it felt as though something was missing. I heard the novel really was amazing, though, and sought it out. While there were flaws, the first four episodes of the novel felt much more complete than the anime. The story is mostly reading and the atmosphere is set more by the music rather than the visuals. Despite this, R07 managed to make the experience very enjoyable. After finishing it, I then continued with the anime, hoping it would at least somewhat meet the level the sound novel did. Of course, it didn't come close.
The anime really has no continuity or flow whatsoever. I found myself asking as the episodes progressed, "Wait, did they cover event X?" and holes simply cannot be left in a mystery story (what Umineko is presented as), other than intentional ones. Small things, such as Battler and Beatrice's reactions to each others' actions were left out or glossed over, making the story incredibly superficial. A lot of fun from the sound novel came from these moments between them.
The meaning behind events happening and secrets slowly unfolding is completely lost. In fact, the fight between Battler and Beatrice, anti-fantasy vs. anti-mystery, might as well not exist in the anime. It's supposed to be a detective/mystery story, albeit a strange one, and not simply that of a fickle witch murdering over a dozen people for fun, which is what the anime turned it into, at least until the very end where it does a rapid, poorly timed 180. Of course, the end was the "same" in the sound novel, but then it was clearly thought out and planned. The anime made it seem as if the producers/director forgot all about the end until the last five minutes of the final episode, then shoved it in.
By the end of the fourth game, one should be able to determine the culprit. By reading the sound novel, I believe this to be possible. I don't see how it could ever be done watching the anime alone.
The art is something that is clearly hit-or-miss. The main reason people seem to be put off from the sound novel is the "horrendous" art. Yes, different heads put on the same body and then turned into different characters. Yes, boxing glove hands. The art of Ryukishi07's works is clearly all about the faces. Whether the art of the anime is better or worse is something I'll let you decide for yourself. However, I think it's unquestionable that the facial expressions of the sound novel are exponentially better than the anime. I won't say that they are drawn well, but something has to be said of bad art that can manage to send chills down spines and make someone not want to read it at night because of frightening expressions. It would be hard for any animator to capture the riveting expressions of the sound novel, however I think they definitely could have tried harder, or at least have done a wider variation.
Of course, the faces weren't the only things animated. Some characters (Rosa) clearly look better than others (Battler), however no one looked totally dreadful, though some people would beg to disagree with that point. In some cases I actually found myself preferring it (Maria actually looks like a nine-year old), but I can't understand why they felt the need change nearly everyone's eye color to blue.
The sound was the most decent thing. The sound of the sound novel was excellent, as to be expected. The music really makes the setting, and even some scenes. The anime remixed some of the songs and used some of the original sound effects. Some fan-favorite songs were left out, but overall they did a decent job in this department.
The song for the opening was very good; I was happy to see they used Akiko Shikata, who did the opening for the sound novel. While, other than "yami o kirisaku OH DESIIIIRE," I disliked the ending song itself. I found it very fitting for Kinzo, however.
While many characters aren't expanded on in the sound novel until Episode 5 and the anime goes up to Episode 4, the anime made it seem as if no one, aside from Battler and Maria, had a personality. Several scenes left out of the anime expand on many of the characters, mainly the adults. Every adult in the anime, aside from Rosa, the cruel, heartless, "mother of the year," might as well have been there to simply add to the body count. For instance, a scene completely left out of the fourth game in the anime, known as the "Krauss Counter," made Krauss (the only adult I actually disliked at the time) likable. While the scene itself was probably the most over-the-top out of them all and not vital to the story (though it actually was part of the group held underground escaping), it made it harder to be suspicious of Krauss, who seemed to care about money more than anything else beforehand. Several scenes that were included were done very poorly, such as Rosa and Maria at the end of the second game and the Sisters of Purgatory, Kyrie, and Rudolf fighting in the third game. It was these many moments centered around the adults that actually made them seem like people rather than warm bodies existing for the sole purpose of dying.
The characterization is so important to the series. A mystery has three parts to answer: the whodunnit, the howdunnit, and the whydunnit. In this series, its easiest to focus on the whydunnit, as opposed to many other mysteries.
Beatrice says that witches exist and that everyone is being killed by magic. Battler refuses to believe in the existence of witches and magic but can't deny that the murders are happening. If it's not magic, then one of the eighteen has to be the killer. One of the reasons the sound novel is so compelling is that every one of the possible culprits is likable in some way. As the it progresses, you don't want to believe it's any of them, but you know someone has to be guilty. Watching the anime alone, I wouldn't mind suspecting nearly anyone; I'd have no attachment to any of the characters, and therefore the story.
The saddest thing about this series is that it ruined what is an, if not great, at least enjoyable, story. Those who hated it are missing out on a story they could have gotten to really like. Those who loved it should definitely start reading the sound novel, if anything to read Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru, which will probably/hopefully never see an anime adaption. read more
So here I finally am, the bad guy who is gonna compare the anime of "Umineko no Naku Koro ni" against the visual novel.
I was happily waiting for the release of the anime, since I really liked the first four novels. While I wasn´t expecting TOO much of the story of chapter 1, chapter 2 has underlined my bad feelings......
Overall, they followed the story well. Some keyfacts where sadly left out, like some explanations from Beatrice. Still, nothing too important was left out, but of course, MANY other funny or interesting things are missing; but in the end, you can´t push a whole book or novel in a 24 - 26 episode anime.
When I saw the first pictures I thought "OMG WHAT´S THAT?", but after seeing it in action, it´s not so bad as I thought. Still, it can´t underline some characters like Eva and Beatrice very well, but I say more about that later.
I always like it when good music from a visual novel is used in the anime again. in Umineko, the recycled old music well and used many new tracks, too. Most of the time, the music is underlining the situation perfectly; but in chapter 1, it started to annoy me that 3 episodes ended with the same track in a row...
And here we are, at the biggest weakness of this anime.
While the parents like Rudolph, Rosa and Eva where intruduced as very nice people in the start of the novel (what changed not so much later), here we got to see only their ugly sides from the start.
Evas "lovely" side was completely ignored, making her look like a b**** from the very start until now. Kyrie was nearly completely left out of the picture, even though she already played a good part in chapter 1 and 2, even though she may be the most interesting character out of the parents. The grand personality of Kinzo is nowhere to be seen, you see him crying most of the time. Maria´s creepyness is so exaggerated that it hurts. Jessica is only presented as a lovesick girl, but not the strong girl she really is.
About Battler, he´s not half as fun as he used to be in the novel, since he´s reduced to to the tragic hero that has to oppose the witch, even though in the original it wasn´t like that.
But the REAL annoyance is about Beatrice.
Her funny, easy to tease character is completely left out, showing only the "evil witch side" of her, but not the interesting character she really is. The somewhat "friendly rivalship" between her and Battler is completely left out, as well as the fact that Battler calls her "Beato" since near the start of chapter 2l.
Partly, the art-style may be at fault as well, I have trouble imagening a sulking or happily laughing Beatrice with the mostly "serious" style.
When you ignore that it is an anime to an existing story, it´s not bad, and I will still continue to watch it, since the really interesting stories are gonna start now.
Even with the left out things of the story, it would be a great anime, if they only didn´t screw up the personalities of the characters so bad. Because they did, the story isn´t what it could be, especially because the relationship between Beatrice and Battler is totally different.
Like that, many potential was thrown away, what makes me quite sad. It might be a good anime in it´s own way, and I still have hope for the second half, but it is not the "Umineko no Naku Koro ni" it should have been. read more
Umineko huh...., probably one of the most disappointing adaptation that ever made
Let's get started, Umineko basically have an interesting and unique plot when you started to watch. It's full of excitement and surprises. But, the story evolves to the wrong direction, there is some point that makes the audience confuse within the story. The story completely losing way in the center, and came out with no finishing, with plenty of mysteries still hidden.
Next is the characters, with SO many characters that the story has, and not even one of them get a single meaningful development at all. All day, they just killing each others, and then die, then revived. Kill, die, revive, they use these cycle almost all of the entire episodes.
I heard that the character designs is different from the visual novel as well, but I think that's ok. The sound is not bad at all. There is no enjoyment I felt when watching this series, the only one that enjoys me is when they are killing each others.
Then there's Umineko, have a potential but wrong story execution. read more
With their story wrote by the same author, both animes are adopted from visual novels with the same name. Focused on -somewhat supernatural- murder mysteries, both stories feature some of the many possibilities which could happen in a period of time.
They are both made by Ryukishi07. They share the splatter and the style: " many possible development of one event which happens again and again".
multiple ways of deaths, mystery and creepy characters (also made by the same creators)
If the name doesn't give it away already, these were both created by the same people. I love both due to their goryness and crazy plot. Definitely check each one out if you like that kind of stuff.
Both hold a dark and mysterious plot, and boggles the intellectual mind.
It has the same mysterious element and its based the same way.Also its made by the same studio and its really amazing.
Umineko & Higurashi are similar because they both have a dark, psychological plot. It's the sort of thing where you would have to see the whole Animes to understand them. Umineko is basically just like an alternate ending for Higurashi. Plus, the characters are similar, creepy and psychotic at times. If you enjoyed Umineko or Higurashi I'd recommend the other to you :D
As both are made by the same people if you liked Higursahi you should check out Umineko, Yes both are pretty different from one another but the two also have a lot a like. Both are very bloody and keep you thinking as the show goes on.
Both of these anime involve a very simular style. The clothing worn by the characters is very Victorian age, one series taking place during such an era and the other being influenced by said era. Both involve mystery, though Umineko runs more long the lines of actually having supernatural overrtone, while Gosick has a supernatural undertone.
same ambiance :
mystery, puzzles, thriller, suspense, murder, stress, angst.
In a European place, with a teenager who search to resolve the mytery.
If you like one, you will like the other.
Both are mysteries, which have similar style of narration.
Both are mystery oriented, with the characters attempting solve murder mysterys. Both use a European setting with European dress. They both also have a similar feel to them.
Both animes are set in similar times and have a similar style/feel to them. They're both not afraid to show blood, but Umineko takes that lack of fear a bit farther than GOSICK does. They each are very mystery-oriented stories(though it doesn't adapt well in the Umineko anime), and are quite fun to try and figure out!
I'd say GOSICK is pretty much a mix between your average detective anime and Umineko, but with a bit lighter feel to it..
Golden fairies-Golden witch
Victorique look so similar with Beatrice,especially the golden hair.
Both animes involve mysteries, murder, and one intelligent "detective", who is able to create a sort of truth scenario when announcing their claims. Their settings also give off a similar, European, feel. The only main difference is that in Gosick, we are always 100% assured of our "detective's" claims.
Umineko and Gosick both have a European style to them.
Both are a murder mystery, and the suspense is deep.
Both are about a group of people trapped in a closed area trying to find the killer among them.
they both deal with murders and solving out the culprit in a similar way and both have to deal with mysterious cases.
Umineko has detective work in a closed off island where the people that are trapped both have to solve murders and commit murders themselves.
Danganronpa has detective work in a closed off high school where the people that are trapped both have to solve murders and commit murders themselves.
Both have the same theme of murders happening in a closed area and finding the culprit.
They both have ideas of being Psychological, disturbing, mysterious. However, Umineko is more magical while danganronpa is more real.
Both are centered on murder mysteries, where the setting is arranged by a "mastermind," or the one who has the most control over the entire situation. As murders happen, due to the characters' (hidden and obvious) motivations and relationships, the survivors attempt to solve every aspect of the death based on the evidence left. Umineko is much less logical, however, as the "mastermind" is a witch that uses magic, and the protagonist's goal is to refute magic, regardless of what actually happened. If you watched Umineko and enjoy a logical (though not quite ingenious) mystery, watch Danganronpa; if you watched Danganronpa, but prefer more ludicrousness rather than mystery, try Umineko.
A groups of people enters a place cut by the world.
Enigmatic murders happened, and the MC have to resolve these enigmatic murders.
In both shows it is a kind of survival staged by someone.
Both have logic and psychological fights and death involved
Both are mystery animes that leave you wanting more
The theme of psychological thriller are something hard to ignore in both of these series as each episode makes the viewer think "what happens next"? Supernatural themes also comes into play beyond the limits of human capability such as the mystical deaths of various characters throughout the series of both of these anime(s). And last but certainly not least is the mystery genre. If you're a fan of theories, clues hunting, analysis, then both of these series may spark some interest.
The only differences are that umineko lacks a plot for changing the world,umineko has some action fight scenes.
Also umineko has a lot of gothic style characters...
Everything else including epicness is the same in both animes.
Has a mystery feel to it and both are about finding culprits in murders and other situations
Truthfully speaking, I have doubts about the similarity between the two, while the first one is all rational and can be explained properly at the end of ever episode, the second one is rather perplexing. Though both still solve cases in the most rational mind that "humans" can commit the said murder to remove the fact the death may have been cause by some paranormal reasons.
they both keep you on the edge of your seat
Both series contain plenty of mystery revolving around mysterious deaths and suspense. Both series' plots are twisted and contain plot holes as confusion and horror spreads as the episode progresses.
Both series contain a cast of characters that begin to lose themselves in hopelessness as the murders continues in unfit matters. Additionally, some of the murders are graphic and increasingly violent as the death count toll piles up.
If you like Umineko no Naku Koro ni, you will like also Another. Both stories have an enigmatical environment and the main character has to discover the answer to a mystery that seems to be impossible to solve. Both of them have something strange and the plot is very interesting. There are many inexplicable deaths. If you like the mysteries and detective i suggest you to watch Another.
Both feature lots of gruesome deaths and the plots are centered around a murder mystery. Very creepy and good to watch in the dark...
Both are must-watches for any horror/mystery fan.
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